9.19.1 Estimated Release Dates

The next normal WoT patch will be called 9.19.1, and after it the update 9.20 with improved graphics will be launched. This fall we should expect Personal Missions 2.0. Although the devs themselves said the new personal missions are 80% ready, our sources tell that this is not the case. Anyhow, here are the estimations:

Preparation of news from WG – June 13.
Official announcement from WG – June 14.
Release from Supertest – June 15.
Launch of the first 9.19.1 general test – June 21/22.
Release of the second iteration of the 9.19.1 common test – June 28.
Patch release date: 1st half of July 2017.

Main changes:

– Buffs to researchable vehicles, mainly USSR;
– Buffs to premiums, mainly USSR;
– Complex fixes (?)
– and other changes;

Full patchnotes will be available later.

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79 thoughts on “9.19.1 Estimated Release Dates

  1. “Buffs to premiums, mainly USSR” yes i was waiting for a Buff on that Nation we all know Russians are so useless @ moment.

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      1. Because there is just obj 252U in the russian tree ?
        obj 268, KV-5, mod.1, IS-4, KV-4, T-150, SU-100M1, SU-101, SU-122-54, T-44, obj 263, A-44 and many more need to get seriously buffed or reworked because they simply don’t work in the current meta…
        Also IS-6 is complete garbage if you ask me because it only works when it meets lower tier garbage.

        saying one nation is OP is pointless

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    1. There are surprisingly many, that are bit outdated and would use some love, actually:

      – Object 268
      – SU-100M1
      – SU-101
      – SU-122-54
      – A-44
      – T-43
      – T-44
      – KV-4
      – KV-5
      – IS-7 is fine tbh, but marginal gun handling buff wouldnt be bad

      I assume IS-4 – ST-I swap is coming, too.

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      1. You forgot mod 1, someone mentioned that it’s due for a rework but it will be problematic, and IS-6 is kinda cancer to play against the new superheavies, no idea how to make that viable without making it OP.

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        1. The problem isn’t really with the IS-6 (although buffing the prem pen on that gun to say 220 wouldn’t do it any harm). The problem is with all the idiot-proof heavies WG have introduced. There’s no good buffing everything to the level of the powercreep BS, they need to actually fix the broken tanks.

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              1. Object 252U has the same gun with 220 or so mm of penetration. So, it’s better if they gave it the 122mm BL-13 because it actually did mount it.

                However, I don’t think we should buff and nerf any prems till we fix this shit.

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              2. Considering the IS-6 now has to brawl with shit like the VK100, Type 4, Mauschen, Obj 252, and Chrysler, I think a pen buff would be justified.

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                1. just like on all other pref MM tanks with complete garbage pen guns…
                  oh and let’s not forget about the stupid KV-5

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        2. Mod 1 shouldnt be too hard to buff honestly. They should start with buffing ammo capacity, gun handling, view range and HP to 1400. Right now it relies too much on armor.

          IS-6 is indeed very hard to buff and so is KV-5. You can buff the pen of latter and they should, but if you give KV-5 too good pen it becomes stupidly strong steamroll machine which would quickly make it broken.

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        3. The problem is that in the current state of the game, anything that is balanced will underperform.
          Balanced = underpowered.
          To make a vehicle decent, the only way is to make it overpowered (relative to other unbuffed tanks that are now powercreeped). Technicaly once all tanks are made overpowered they will all turn out balanced against each other, and that’ll be a new balance for the game.

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  2. “– Buffs to researchable vehicles, mainly USSR;
    – Buffs to premiums, mainly USSR;”

    Hurr Durr russian bias

    Give HD model to the remaining SD tanks, especially Batchat, T-34-3 and STB-1

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  3. Buffs to Russians, what else can you expect.
    Anyway, I can’t wait for SovietTD’s article on the TR-580 prototype for tier 9. I see no problem adding it since they did the same with the AMX 30

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  4. Cant they ffs stop with all the buffing and fix their mess by nerfing the op stuff. I know, I know, Nerfs cause much more butthurt. But cmon we went way to far with the powercreep lately and fixing powercreep with more powercreep isnt going to make the game any better.

    And we all know: WG isnt going to be buffing those tanks in need just enough to make em competitive again, but is going to overbuff em so much, Tier 8 will be dominated by T-44s and tier 10 will be full of 268s und IS-7s.

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    1. This is so true! WG are shitting their pants now, not to lose potential income, so they will not nerf what they have already overbuffed. :(
      But unfortunatly that is the ONLY way to fix this game.. Otherwise after a year or two, Tier6 and 7 tanks for example will be unplayable in randoms because of the level of ultra retarded vehicles in Tier8.

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  5. Wargaming need to fucking stop to balance their game around a braindead player base and look more into what good players are able to do with a tank. Next u get retarded OP equipment and make it even worser and worser. Anyway i’m glad the last patch installed was 0.9.12. for me.

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  6. When will they allow SINGLE artys to platoon with other classes again? That’s the one thing I care about…I couldn’t give a f**k about better graphics or various buffs to vehicles..

    Fafnir_6

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    1. They’ve finally reduced the number of arties per game. They are been played less and they should keep it that way. No need to encourage playing arty.

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    2. i hope you will be able to platoon with other arty players some day but in a arty only game where you can spam and stun each other all day long… because you seem to enjoy that so very much

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  7. Lol, they shit these patches out like no tomorrow. Wanted to upload a replay from 9.18 today on circons site but it was already not compatible. What a surprise considering 9.18 lasted for 2 weeks lol

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  8. Fingers crossed on a KV5 buff. Maybe a terrain and aim time buff to the IS7. Make it beast of a medium. HP and armor are fine. Add an extra 100 to the dpm and it’s good enough to deal with the latest super heavies in its own way.

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    1. KV-5 a d IS-6 buff confirmed. MOAR PEN TO KV-5 AND REMOVE FRONT TIT WEAKSPOT RADIO OPERATOR WOULD BE GREATFUL. HURR DURR. In al seriousness i hope they buff its standard pen. Or give it tier 8 pref MM.

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      1. You know they cant buff gun os this tank. Coz A44, T150 use this gun as well.

        Sane goes with IS 6, if they will buff AP pen, you know how much 122 mm gun they need to buff > ?

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        1. That’s nonsense. You do realise that gun handling stats are separate for each tank? That’s a lot likely to be buffed instead of the pen, since it’s current AP pen is enough.

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        2. you know they can do anything they want with it so they can give KV-5 any blueprint proposed gun they feel like since it was never actually made ifl… and even if it were.

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    1. I guess the CDC will be buffed when they are going to work the French line. They are going to rework the French TD’s and they will introduce a new premium. Maybe they will take a look on the rest of the French vehicles too.

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      1. There would be some French vehicles that would see changing.

        I would like to see the 2nd heavy line getting introduced, too.

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        1. For instance, drop Somua SM to tier 7 before AMX 50 100 and make M4 45 lead to new tanks, add new tanks from tier 2-7 that also connects into new tier 8 (FCM 2C, FCM F1, ARL tracteur C etc).

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    2. It says “mainly” -> as in “MAINLY” -> not “only USSR” but “mainly USSR”
      There’s still a chance for CDC, T-34-2, FCM 50t and similar tanks…

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  9. Russian tanks are among the best in the game, but lets buff them even more……

    You *REALLY* have to wonder what they are smoking at WG’s office sometimes….

    How about buffing the Tiger II, E-75, VK4503 (DPM increase to the same as the Tiger 1) etc? You know, tanks that actually need it?

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    1. Well, you clearly haven’t played the T-44, it’s the shittiest tank on it’s tier. I also think the IS-6 is in need of a penetration buff, because of all the retarded heavies that were released in the last year.

      E75 has been buffed in 9.17, but that wasn’t really necessary. VK4503 is very good as it is, it’s effective DPM is roughly the same as the Tiger I, due to the gunhandling, which is fenomenal on that tank. The Tiger II does need a buff, it performance is amongst the worst of it’s tier, together with the Carnaervon. Both tanks have relatively low alpha damage, so they should buff the DPM. That was always the trade, high alpha? Low dpm. Low alpha? High DPM!

      That’s why it is also really retarded why the OPject 252 has the same dpm as the IS3 with higher alpha.

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    2. So E75 needs buffs more than Object 268, SU-101, SU-122-54, SU-100M1, A-44, T-44, KV-4 or KV-5? Ok. I mean, sure, Russian tree has fuckton of great tanks, but there are still quite a few tanks that would use some love.

      E 75 already got buffs. They buffed its biggest flaw, poor gun handling, by like 50%. Thats a huge buff.

      That being said, i still think they should focus on fixing the OP crap instead of buffing more tanks, even tho some tanks are obviously terrible even with OP stuff like Object 268 that is effectively sidegrade to average tier 9 TD whole tier higher. There is good chance they will mess up balance even further. Im especially worried about IS-7 buffs.

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      1. True, the last tanks that they’ve ‘fixed’ went full retard. I hope the IS-7 will not become a faster Maus. Fixing the balance is so fucking simple, just fix the obvious OP and UP tanks. vbaddict can help to point those out…

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  10. Not a word on the fucked up ‘new’ MM template system that has become as bad as the old shit MM

    (how many times exactly is T8 or even T6 top tier after the ‘New MM announcement on YouTube? it should be 33% give or take ~
    more like 10 to 20% top tier most times its Middle tier 50% or single tier

    WG must laugh aloud at the EU player base, we believe anything and everything they say if they smile a bit and look sincere.

    Then launch another ‘new’ T8 Premium to milk there players, and we do.

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  11. Pls buff defender. Its too weak against tier 6’s

    Just kidding. Please buff is 6, mod 1, kV 5, is7/ is 4, t 43, 268, su 101

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  12. I liked the new template when introduced – giving us lots of 2-tier-spread battles… Lots of balanced exciting battles… After they “fixed” it and we almost only get 3-tier 3-5-7 battles everything is a rockslide where you either massacre the enemy or get massacred.

    The problem in my opinion is not necesary the MM – But given the huge difference in player skills it matters a lot who gets to play the biggest tanks in a battle. I sincerely believe the difference between each tier is too large.

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  13. Quite happy with this tbh, things like the IS-7, T44 and KV-5 need a bit of love! Think the IS-7 is among the worst T10 heavies right now due to the armour being made useless by Naval guns on tanks and the invitation to spam premium… If they buff the T43 + T44 you could imagine the amount of T-62A’s and Obj 140’s in randoms would be hilarious!

    As for the KV-5, it was released back when preium rounds were bought with gold and when 99% of tanks didn’t have 500mm pen on their standard rounds (cough Skorpion, Defender). The gun isn’t too bad IMO but the armour is made redundant due to premium rounds and pure power creep of T8’s recently.

    Lastly, Japanese heavies need to gtfo. Starting from tier 6 you just get *DERPED* in the face and no matter how good your armour is you’re gonna lose your gunner, driver, both tracks, turret and engine and take 250 damage. I now await your reply of either “Get a spall liner then you turd” or “how about don’t drive out in front of tanks shooting HE if you’re gonna cry about it”.

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    1. I already proposed a rework for them. That combined with HE shell rework (where you hit the HE shell should matter more and it should do much less module damage when it doesnt penetrate, expect maybe to tracks) should make them much better.

      The one problem is that they have to use derp guns because the alternative guns are outright terrible and among worst heavy tank guns in their tiers.

      Outright removal is not necessary when the line is actually possible to fix but it needs pretty much overhauling the entire line and given that WG tries to always go through easy ways i dont think it will happen anytime soon.

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    2. There is nothing wrong with the armor of the IS7. The UFP and the turret can’t be penetrated and it also has the magical spaced armor. Yes, it has a weak LFP, but that’s how it should be. And besides, you can hide that weakspot. It should take skill and mapknowledge to make armor work.

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      1. it’s not armor that needs fixing, it’s the horible DPM, gun handling and ground resistances that make it a complete turd of a tank.
        Well not a complete turd but it really can’t compete with Maus, Type 5, E5 and many others.
        It simply needs fixing… but not too much.
        First of all they should start with the stupid OP tanks and then fix the rest

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        1. Yeah, they should fix the obvious things first. But hey, this is WG, they are (in)famous for ignoring the elephant in the room…

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          1. About not fixing obvious things: in 9.17 they’ve fixed the whole Leopard 1 line, except for the Leopard 1… XD It has the lowest winrate of all the tier 10 mediums. It should be all about the gun, but the gunhandling is bad and also the mobility is crippled by the softstats. The object 140 is just as mobile, because of terrainresistances and has a better gun due to dispersion values. And it has armor.

            The only thing the Leo has over it’s peers is gundepression and a bit more penetration.

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  14. Hope WG gives just some slight buffs to the FCm 50t. The main thing I want is better gun soft stats. Because they are not good even with vertical stabilizers. Also maybe buff the side armor to 85mm

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  15. They did the defender OP for sell a lot of tanks and now, after few months, they buff it. WG i’ll not buy nothing else from you.

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      1. there was none… except for that fact that his nick is Defender and that he had to use google translate to put together those two sentences

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  16. I wish in the next patch they gonna buff tanks that really needs attention is tanks that are rarely use this includes the
    Churchill GC
    Some Japanese tanks mainly the tier 6-7 MT line and tier 9-10 i rarely see them here in Asia
    Also some American tanks t8 standard
    Some British t6-7 HT
    And Chinese tanks t5-6 mt and the 110

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  17. This is my first time posting anything on this site but I felt personally compelled to discuss something relating to the 9.18 update that has been seen as a negative situation in my opinion.

    I’ll start by stating that I am surprised that no one has brought to attention the effects of the abrupt reduction in HE shell penetration of most low tier SPGs (shell size smaller than 150mm) from the 9.18 update. I understand the logic that WG had with this pen reduction concept for the larger SPGs due to the trade-off for stun/splash mechanics but the smaller SPGs were completely left out of that mechanic while simultaneously being less hard hitting due to the SPG-wide shell pen reduction.

    As an example of this situation, the tier III Lorraine 39L am SPG is one of my old favourites but it seems that I have a harder time supporting my teams now that it takes me on average at least 2 shots with an approx. 16 1/2 sec. loading time difference to eliminate even thinly armoured targets such as enemy TDs or SPGs while having no added benefit of stun mechanics.

    The need to fire multiple shots against a target more often can negatively impact the performance of low tier SPGs. The reason is that the target is given more time to spot or harvest more damage against the team between shots and thus potentially crippling a flank (oftentimes resulting in a loss) while simultaneously ruining the element of surprise that comes with having to fire several shells against a target. This is contrary to the pre-update 9.18 situation where one would have a higher likelihood of counting on a single carefully aimed, frustratingly slow-loading but very effective shot to eventually eliminate a target due to the better HE shell pen value.

    I’ll conclude this by stating that I really hope that WG considers the odd situation of the sub-150mm SPGs and decide on either reinstating their old pen values to compensate for their exclusion in the stun mechanics or to add them into the stun mechanics while keeping the new pen values. However, I think that they must decide on something relating to this for the next few patches because the overall situation with these SPGs does not seem good compared to the pre – 9.18 situation.

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