Supertest: Object 252 Stat Changes

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New parameters:

Tier: 8 (Heavy)
HP: 1500
Engine: 700 hp
Mass: 51.5 t
Power-to-weight: 13.59 hp / t
Max speed: 35 / -14 km / h
Hull turning speed: 26 °/s
Turret turning speed: 24 °/s
Terrain resistance values: 1.151 / 1.438 / 2.205
View range: 350 m
Radio range: 440 m

Hull armor: 90 / 90 / ? mm
Turret armor: 250 / 150 / ? mm

Gun: 122 mm BL-13

Alpha Damage: 440 / 440 / 530 (AP buff)
Penetration: 225 / 265 / 68 mm
Reload time: 15.2 s (nerf)
Accuracy: 0,44
Aiming time: 3,2 s (nerf)
Depression/Elevation: -5 / +20

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41 thoughts on “Supertest: Object 252 Stat Changes

  1. Is this the deformed love-child of the 110 and IS-3?
    Bloody hell.
    At least its gun is getting worse.
    …Not like it made a difference, the RNG will be on its side anyway.

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  2. Why would a tenk need 440 alpha on tier 8? Even 390 alpha on the is3 is alot. But now there are like 120 dmg differance between this AND the 105mm on the tiger II, kv4 and t32 for example. 440 dmg is like TD like damage on a HT.

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      1. The only thing everybody seems to forget is that with SU-100Y you hit every 10th shot, you get spotted before you can spot them, you have zero armor, huge brick like shape and horible brick like mobility.
        It feels good when you get lucky and actually manage to hit somebody (even when it’s your teammate) but most of the time you will be throwing yoru keyboard out the window.

        Or it could be just my Russian bias that might’ve broken down again.

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    1. Presumably: having a slow tank with no hull armor is like being a tier 8 TOG II*. They couldn’t buff RoF and accuracy without ending up at an E25 situation–a tank that just sits in the back firing at any tank in range in absolute safety.

      That only leaves alpha, sadly. I don’t think the balance concept works; they’d have to give it 490 alpha for it to have enough oomph to discourage pushing it, but then they’d nerf DPM to go with it, and we’d end up with an even worse damage problem.

      IMHO: throw out accuracy with the hull armor. Make the UFP 210mm effective, the LFP criminally thin, keep it at 390 alpha, and make it 14.5 hp:ton effective…

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    2. They gave it a 440 alpha to oneshot even more scouts in the beginning of a game.
      I remember many times I did that to rushing ELC’s on my IS-6 with the help of Stalins hand, which dropped a high roll and best accuracy on the move.

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  3. And here we go again, another whine fest even though i calculated all the numbers on the previous post and it turns out you will have to pen around 180mm upper plate and 140mm lower plate (effective) if this thing is perfectly angled towards you.
    There are no auto deflect angles on this thing and you won’t be able to angle it. like let’s say 112,

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  4. Thanks WG, now It turned from a decent premium that is mobile and have good gun to a tank with a major boomstick that always have to rely on Serb RNG and Russian Bias Stalin power to guide the shell to the target, and look at that damn reload time. 13.6 secs at tier 8 with a weak armored tank like this? B. please

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    1. not much of a nerf when they buff the alpha
      and the tank is already extremely strong =/
      hell that turret makes the already strong IS-6 turret look like paper

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      1. Please, try to look at tanks without the russophobia.
        Compared to T32 this has way worse lower plate and upper plate is the same probably, has almost the same speed speed, half the depression, gun handles worse, DPM is worse, less HP, no viewrange. Only 2 things this tank has are alpha and turret. It looks worse than T26E5 and AMX M4 49.

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  5. no just no this is an awful idea thats too much. look this takes away the alpha crown from the t34 and it looks faster more maneuverable and has a turret which is as good if not better as well as a hull which im near certain will be better. no wg no this is dumb.

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    1. To be fair, the mobility is definitely worse than the VK45a’s, and the overall hull armor performance isn’t really going to be better frontally, and also, the T32 has -10 degrees of gun depression which allows it to minimize hull exposure and make full use of its virtually unrivaled turret.

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  6. What is wrong, tovarisch? Oh, yuo think stronk motherlend tenk is too stronk because armour profile is disgusting, mobility is decent, and firepower is ridiculous? We understand, do not worry. We nerf aim time and reload to give tenk disadvantage, da.

    Now we buff alpha to 440 to make tank even more insane than it previously was because fuck you, “happy players” axaxaxaxax

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  7. Just what we were waiting for. If there is one thing the community has been screaming out for its more Soviet Premium Heavy tanks.

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