World of Tanks – Fan tech tree: Switzerland

Hello, Commanders.

Today we break with all norms and offer you something rather unusual instead of specials and offers: a fan research tree. Just to be clear, no, there are no plans to bring it into the game, or generally to bring another nation into the game. But sometimes it’s just fun to let your imagination run wild. I’m sure that’s what Mizutayio thought, who is behind this concept for a Swiss research tree.

In addition to a good portion of creativity, one thing has also gone into this masterpiece, a great deal of research work, because the research tree certainly has potential and is based on real vehicles and real working prototypes. A work that deserves more attention and which we want to honour with this article. And who knows, maybe one day the Mutz will not be the only one rolling through the mountains of World of Tanks.

Speaking of the Panzer 58. Why has this premium tank not yet made it into your research tree? That would make sense. The Rudy now has the option of flying a Polish flag. So the Mutz would be a good candidate for, right?

“This has a good reason, there is a better candidate, the actual Panzer 58 prototype on which the Mutz is based: The so-called KW 30 1957 (short KW 30/57) It has certain differences to the Mutz, on the one hand these are side skirts, on the other hand it is the absence of the loader cupola and a few smaller differences in the chassis, the hull and the appearance of the gun.”

In this case, the Germans can probably really keep the Mutz. Besides, the Swiss tree should be something unique. Before we take a closer look at it, how about introducing yourself? How long have you been with World of Tanks? And where does the enthusiasm for Swiss tanks come from?

“My ingame name as mentioned above is Mizutayio, real name Joris Peier. Proud Swiss and currently 24 years old. I have already written a couple of detailed articles about individual Swiss tanks on I’ve been playing World of Tanks since 2013 and the enthusiasm for Swiss tanks came as soon as I learned that we were building and using tanks. The idea to create a Swiss research tree came some time ago, version 1.0 was ready by the end of 2015. But it was completely without own research, had only 3 lines (Tank destroyers, mediums and artillery) and was based on the work of another player I still work with today.”

You can clearly see the work of four years in this tech tree proposal. By now, each class has its own vehicle and even wheeled tanks have made it into your tree as a separate branch. The new subclass of light tanks is quite controversial, but it seems to fit in well with yours. Maybe this would be an approach to bring more Swiss Tanks into the game. Can they stand up to the French? And where would you place the Swiss tree in general in comparison with the other nations?

“The Swiss tree would be a mix between several nations. The light tanks would be similar to the Germans, the medium tanks would be somewhere between the Germans and the Americans: better armored than the Leopard line vehicles but not as fast but faster than the Patton line vehicles but not as well armored. The Tank destroyers are like the StuGs of the Germans, but with better mobility and bigger guns. The heavy tanks are similar to the chieftains in concept, but with worse turret armor. I can only compare the wheeled tanks with the French at the moment, and I can only say that the Swiss wheeled tanks have smaller wheels and larger vehicles, so they should be easier to hit. “

Some people would be very happy about wheeled vehicles that are easier to hit. So you would have some of the community on your side. As mentioned in the beginning, there are no developments towards a new nation at the moment. First of all, double-gun tanks are on the horizon. Did you also find some double-gun tanks for the Swiss tech tree?

“There are hardly any double gun tanks per se, the only one I found would be similar to the VT1. But special mechanics would be possible, e.g. rocket launchers or coaxial 20-35 mm cannons.”

Rocket launchers in World of Tanks … I will suggest it to the developers. And while I’m at it, is there a tank in your tree that should make it into the game without a new nation? So if you could wish for a tank, which one would it be and why exactly?

Of all the tanks in my fan-tree a must have would be the Typhoon tank destroyer and if it needs to be more conventional, the Panzerkanone 1


Big thanks to RagingRaptor for translating this.

0 thoughts on “World of Tanks – Fan tech tree: Switzerland

  1. WG sold a Pz 58 premium once, as well as having it as a FL tank. It was the Mutz without the bear camo. I see 2 options here for WG, I am listing them in order of most likeliness of happening; 1) they make both the Mutz and Pz 58 multinational tanks or 2) The move the Pz 58 (non Mutz) only to Swiss tree (maybe redo the look to match what you state about it in the article).

  2. Good tech tree, combined with Swedish turreted TDs and British, German and US armoured cars and REAL British light tanks we have tanks and trees for years yet.

    1. Italian TDs and armored cars are also possible and there\’s much more for the US TT than just armored cars, it is just a matter of WG wanting to add them, but they don\’t and from what The_Chieftain said recently, in one of his videos, there\’s little else planned to be added in the near future, he was asked
      «have you added everything you wanted?»
      and replied that almost everything was added

  3. I would like to vote for a Hungarian tech tree, they had some really interesting and unique designs.

  4. New trees can be nice, but, remember the wheeled francs and on the other hand the brits light fail brigade?

    WG should overthink the whole testing system. Clearly, current supertest is broken. I would suggest introduction of new tanks into randoms, as test rentals, limited but in common use, then balance changes according to gathered stats.

    1. While I like the idea and think this should be done I can also see a lot of drawbacks.

      1.) The average WoT player doesn\’t like to read or inform himself about whats new/coming.
      2.) A new tank being tested (as the EBR) will lead to some toxicity and players will think that everything is already set in stone (as observable in WoWs)
      3.) How should it be decided who is going to test these tanks? Good players may be helpful yet the game needs the bad players to play and spend money too – The bad players already fail to understand the current tanks and now they should give quality feedback on a brand new one without a video of QB explaining everything.

      But as stated above I would prefer such a system despise the drawbacks

    2. Testing new tanks on the live server is testing in production. This is the worst idea!

      On the other hand, you seem to forget that supertest is a pre-pre-release state. There is a public testing environment: the Common Test. With the right communication, you can have A LOT of people testing to gather relevant data and some player feedback. Although the latter, more often than not, is just resonating within its own echo chambers and to be taken with a grain of salt to begin with.

      Sure, the French changed the flow of matches but looking at the live server statistics, they are just above average with their Tier 10, Tier 9 and Premium Tier 8, while Tier 7 and Tier 6 performs about average. And the Brits are between average and a bit below. If you ask me, that looks like reasonably balanced results, which are probably similar to the ones from CT.
      In comaprison to the other tech trees, the French wheelies may be the new strongest lights in the game and the Brits the new worst ones but all in all, they don\’t really deviate from the rest as much as vocalized by loudest community members.

      WG actually doesn\’t seem to be that much off with mainly basing their decisions on their data sets rather than some questionably qualified player feedback. They just might have to improve their communication about the CT, maybe even in the CT game client by clarifiying the test goals and maybe even releasing their actual test results, to get even more people into checking out new tank entries and increasing the data set.

      1. Common test makes no sense. New players are testing tanks to grind and they don\’t understand how to play them at all and people yolo a lot, cause they don\’t care about stats or anything. Also gold ammo is basically unlimited so it\’s not like normal game.

    1. I don\’t know, man: \”Just to be clear, no, there are no plans to bring it into the game, or generally to bring another nation into the game\”

      1. \”Now i really need this tree to get as much attention as possible, so please share it everywhere you can, be it the many european forums, the NA Forum, Asia Forum, Russian Forum or social media. I am not allowed to say anything but maybe WG is very well aware of the tree and is just shelving it for a later date, and maybe when it gets enough attention we’d get a new nation instead of yet another Russian tier 8 premium tank, who knows 😉\” Mizutayo, as he stated it here:

        I smell something cooking, but you know, It could be just a misinterpretation of his message. But it\”s most likely not.

      2. well, for the Taifun or Panzer 68 they could probably simply take any picture available and trace around it to make the sketch, however I believe the one behind on the right is one of the heavy tanks and the one on the far left seems to be one of the Chansard concepts, simple logic would dictate that for them to draw those they would need reference materials and thus would need Mizutayo to send them the material he gathered, that is why I wondered if it could mean more than just a \”fan spotlight\” type of article

  5. \” Just to be clear, no, there are no plans to bring it into the game, or generally to bring another nation into the game.\”
    …. why not?

  6. I liked Swiss tanks in WOT idea a lot! Hope we will get these vehicles in the game soon. Well meybe without wheels vehicles 😉

    1. There are perhaps as many tanks as in current US tree. And Czechoslovak tree is also interesting. DANA … we hate arty and we hate wheeled crap … please don\’t tell Wargaming that Czechoslovakia had wheeled arty with autoloader and 15s reload 🙂 But name says model 77 … it\’s hopefully too modern.

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