WoT 9.20 – Fate of the Foch 155 and BC 25t

A new article popped up on WoT Asia, and beside all the changes we have covered previously on TAP, there are a few new tidbits.

AMX 50 Foch (155)

If you think of the AMX 50 Foch (155), this one is definitely a keeper. Although it developed a few weaknesses over the years and pales in comparison to other top-tier TDs, it can be seen rolling down the battlefields every once in while. At the same, following the tweaks to Tiers VIII–IX, this TD became unfit for the top Tier, which created a dilemma. Many players in the community have a soft spot for the AMX 50 Foch (155) and removing it from the game would make no one happy. It took us a while, but we found a way out that should give the revised TD line a Tier X to match, and leave the good ol’ Foch (155) in the roster.

Starting in 9.20, the Foch (155) becomes a special vehicle, while a completely new TD; the AMX 50 Foch B, rolls out on Tier X. Basically, this newcomer is a revised version of the AMX 50 Foch (155), equipped with a six-round 120mm autoloader capable of dealing 400 alpha damage instead of the 155 gun. It is also reinforced with better side and front armor. Due to a low silhouette, the AMX 50 Foch (155) used to have fairly poor gun depression and elevation, limiting the tank’s usefulness. We increased both to boost its effectiveness on uneven terrain.

AMX 50 Foch B

Let’s explain some purely technical details of the transition:

  • What’s with the AMX 50 Foch’s (155) combat parameters?

It benefits from the same set of improvements the new Tier X received (except for the gun; it retains the 155mm autoloader): its front and side armor got thicker and gun depression and elevation went up a few degrees.

  • How can you get the AMX 50 Foch B and the AMX 50 Foch (155)?

If you researched and purchased the AMX 50 Foch (155), it remains in your Garage, changing its status to a special vehicle, and you also get the AMX 50 Foch B.

If you researched but haven’t purchased it just yet, you have until 9.20’s launch to do it.

Lastly, if you’re in the process of researching it, you have to hurry, as the AMX 50 Foch (155) won’t be available for purchase after 9.20.

  • What stays on the AMX 50 Foch (155)?

It keeps its battle statistics, XP, achievements, medals, and marks of excellence.

  • What gets transferred to the AMX 50 Foch B?

All customization items (camo, emblems, and inscriptions) go to the AMX 50 Foch B for their remaining duration. The AMX 50 Foch’s (155) Crew gets retrained for the AMX 50 Foch B. Since the AMX 50 Foch (155) has a special status, you can recruit a Crew from any French TD without penalty.

  • What’s with rounds and equipment?

Shells were removed, but fear not; you’ll get the full amount of Credits they cost you credited to your account. Equipment gets de-mounted and moved to Storage, and you can use it on any other vehicle.


And on the Batchat 25t…

We know how many of you hold the Bat.-Châtillon 25 t. dear. So do we! Upon considering your feedback on the changes we planned to introduce, we took a step back to review the testing results and didn’t find a solid enough reason to rebalance this treasured vehicle. We will leave it unchanged for now.




44 thoughts on “WoT 9.20 – Fate of the Foch 155 and BC 25t

  1. yes, replace a fake vehicle by another fake vehicle, GJ WG, well played.



    1. Considering the Canon Automoteur AMX 50 Foch was actually built… and is something I can find real images of with google image search. And I can only find blueprints when I search for your “real” tank. I’ll say they replaced it with a real one.


    1. The prem rounds need to go… Like all prem rounds do… I like how wg trys so hard to remove pay to win and you sheep try to keep it…


    1. Considering they say you can use any crew in it. I suspect it’s a “crew” trainer like CW tanks and the PM reward tanks are. As in a 1.5x crew bonus. If so it would be even better.


      1. You are retarded. Batchat heat rounds are arguably among the worst considering it’s reload, shell velocity (with heat), proneness to missing or being eaten by tracks and costing it dearly each shell that doesn’t pen and damage. APCR is actually the best thing to shoot in it for the most part, unless you’re staring down heavies from the front lul


      1. I did that 100k free xp gone on Foch 155, but well spent I guess … Just one thing I don’t like with that tank is its accuracy… Tank Destroyers must have better accuracy then medium tanks, but unfortunately in Foch 155’s case its opposite :/


  2. Why didn’t WG do the same with aufklärungspanzer panther!? They did this to it in the console version but why not on PC? I really liked that tank. WG should have given me the option to keep it as a special tank. I am so disappointed


    1. Console version is not run by WG directly. As they add any tank they find as a premium. As Console has 3x more premium tanks the PC has. Inc tanks PC has removed. That and WOT PC is run by different people now vs then. 90% of the people working on the game when they removed the auf panther is not here. So the chain of thought on how to approach things like this is different to.


      1. I agree. A tier X MT with 1800 hp able to deliver an average of 1950 dmg within 8s is perfectly fine and balanced.


          1. I believe he thought the batchat had 2s intraclip reload, which just went to show his ignorance

            pretty sure he’s just one of those pubs who got salty after being clipped by batchat and assumed that it is OP, without actually ever driving it himself


            1. The Batchat has 5 Shells, hence the 1950 potential damage, thus 4 x 2.73s FFS

              God, the amount of ignorant people in the comment section is appalling, why don’t you look up tanks.gg or something before posting, it’s not hard isn’t it?


        1. Batchat has horrible gun stats. The only time a batchat can use its full clip is at close range, when people are way out of position and isolated or the game is over already anyways and the bat can just drive in and collect some late game damage for himself. The gun isn’t reliable at all in other situations.


    1. I’m on the exact opposite. I find 103b a great tank to play with and have no regrets getting it, while I rage sold my 155 ages ago. Guess I will rebuy it, just for the collection, if it’s not going to be available again. It’s only credits after all.


  3. I didn’t grind the foch i was waiting for the auto loaders from tier 8 and up so no special tank for me. My fault though as super test always has a chance to change i have the tier 8 unlocked i should have brought it and got xp in it ready for the auto loaders. I also hadn’t brought the bc25t because i was unsure if i would have wanted it after its changes i do have it unlocked though.


  4. I dont know if the batchat is op I dont have one but there are way to many of these things around so I guess it is overpowered in the right hands and thus everybody want one
    I think its a mistake not to nerf it but the bc lover community is big and wargaming is fearing to lose players if nerfing it
    statswise it is one of the best medium tanks close after the special vehicles in damage dealt and winrate

    Personally I dont like these things they make the game end way to fast its either you get runned over or you run over both sucks imho


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