Tier 10 – Concept No.5
• Added historical information.
General:
• Tank repair cost: from 22,500 to 22,860 credits
Firepower:
• Cost of 1 (AP) shell: from 1,200 to 1,120 credits
• Cost of 3 (HE) shell: from 950 to 850 credits
Survivability:
• Turret side armor: from 50 to 40 mm
• Repair time of the wheels: from 30.52 to 19.25 sec
Tier 9 – GSOR 1006 Scheme 7
• Added historical information.
General:
• Price: from 3,500,000 to 3,400,000 credits
• Tank repair cost: from 15,510 to 16,335 credits
Firepower:
Turret 1/2 – GSOR 1006/7 Mk.I
Gun 1/2 – 90mm Kenerga Mk.8
• Gun loading: from 8.61 to 7.83 sec
• Aiming time: from 2.11 to 1.82 sec
• Gun rate of fire: from 6.96 to 7.66
• Ammunition: from 26 to 50
• Gun weight: from 1488 to 1480kg
• Average damage per minute of 1 (AP) shell: from 1,741 to 1,915
• Average damage per minute 2 (APCR) shell: from 1,741 to 1,915
• Average damage per minute of 3 (HE) shell: from 2,298 to 2,528
• Cost of 1 (AP) shell: from 635 to 560 credits
• Cost of 3 (HE) shell: from 405 to 300 credits
Gun 2/2 – 105mm MV Gun
• Ammunition: from 20 to 50
• Gun weight: from 3,500 to 2,500kg
• Cost of 1 (AP) shell: from 1,200 to 1,090 credits
• Cost of 3 (HE) shell: from 950 to 670 credits
Turret 2/2 – GSOR 1006/7 Mk.II
Gun 1/2 – 90mm Kenerga Mk.8
• Gun loading: from 8.13 to 7.64 sec
• Aiming time: from 1.92 to 1.73 sec
• Gun rate of fire: from 7.38 to 7.86
• Ammunition: from 26 to 50
• Gun weight: from 1488 to 1480kg
• Average damage per minute of 1 (AP) shell: from 1,846 to 1,964
• Average damage per minute 2 (APCR) shell: from 1 846 to 1 964
• Average damage per minute of 3 (HE) shell: from 2437 to 2593
• Cost of 1 (AP) projectile: from 635 to 560 credits
• Cost of 3 (HE) projectiles: from 405 to 300 credits
Gun 2/2 – 105mm MV Gun
• Ammunition: from 20 to 40
• Gun weight: from 3,500 to 2,500kg
• Cost of 1 (AP) shell: from 1,200 to 1,090 credits
• Cost of 3 (HE) shell: from 950 to 670 credits
Survivability:
• Repair time of the wheels: from 8.02 to 20.06 sec
Mobility:
Engine 1/2 – Rolls Royce K60
• Engine power: from 550 to 525 hp
• Specific power: from 23.94 to 23.90 hp/t
Engine 2/2 – Rolls Royce K60 Mk.II
• Engine power: from 560 to 535 hp
• Specific power: from 24.38 to 24.32 hp/t
• Engine weight: from 630 to 660kg
Tier 8 – FV601 Saladin
• Added historical information.
General:
• Price: from 2,500,000 to 2,400,000 credits
Firepower:
Turret 1/2 – Saladin Mk II
Gun 1/2 – 76mm L5A3
• Gun loading: from 5.97 to 4.60 sec
• Aiming time: from 2.21 to 2.11 sec
• Gun rate of fire: from 10.05 to 13.04
• Ammunition: from 30 to 60
• Accuracy at 100 m: from 0.38 to 0.35
• Dispersion during turret traverse (max.): 0.12 (6.26) to 0.10 (5.22)
• Average damage per minute of 1 (AP) shell: from 1,356 to 1,760
• Average damage per minute of 2 (APCR) shell: from 1 356 to 1 760
• Average damage per minute of 3 (HE) shell: from 1,758 to 2,282
• Cost of 1 (AP) shell: from 100 to 145 credits
• Cost of 3 (HE) shell: from 56 to 100 credits
Gun 2/2 – 75mm M6
• Gun loading: from 5.68 to 4.60 sec
• Aiming time: from 2.01 to 1.73 sec
• Gun rate of fire: from 10.57 to 13.04
• Ammunition: from 30 to 60
• Accuracy at 100 m: from 0.36 to 0.32
• Dispersion during turret traverse (max.): 0.12 (6.26) to 0.06 (3.13)
• Dispersion after shot: from 4.00 to 3.00
• Average damage per minute of 1 (AP) shell: from 1,585 to 1,956
• Average damage per minute of 2 (APCR) shell: from 1,585 to 1,956
• Average damage per minute of of 3 (HE) shell: from 2,113 to 2,608
• Cost of 1 (AP) shell: from 165 to 215 credits
• Cost of 3 (HE) shell: from 215 to 120 credits
Turret 2/2 – Saladin-90
Gun 1/3 – 76mm L5A3
• Gun loading: from 5.68 to 4.41 sec
• Aiming time: from 2.11 to 1.92 sec
• Gun rate of fire: from 10.57 to 13.62
• Ammunition: from 34 to 60
• Accuracy at 100 m: from 0.36 to 0.35
• Dispersion during turret traverse (max.): 0.12 (6.26) to 0.08 (4.17)
• Average damage per minute of 1 (AP) shell: from 1427 to 1839
• Average damage per minute of 2 (APCR) shell: from 1427 to 1839
• Average damage per minute of 3 (HE) shell: from 1,849 to 2,384
• Cost of 1 (AP) shell: from 100 to 145 credits
• Cost of 3 (HE) shell: from 56 to 100 credits
Gun 2/3 – 75mm M6
• Gun loading: from 5.48 to 4.41 sec
• Aiming time: from 2.01 to 1.73 sec
• Gun rate of fire: from 10.94 to 13.62
• Ammunition: from 34 to 60
• Accuracy at 100 m: from 0.35 to 0.32
• Dispersion during turret traverse (max.): 0.12 (6.26) to 0.06 (3.13)
• Dispersion after shot: from 4.00 to 3.00
• Average damage per minute of 1 (AP) shell: from 1,642 to 2,043
• Average damage per minute 2 (APCR) shell: from 1642 to 2043
• Average damage per minute of 3 (HE) shell: from 2,189 to 2,724
• Cost of 1 (AP) shell: from 165 to 215 credits
• Cost of 3 (HE) shell: from 215 to 120 credits
Gun 3/3 – 90mm Kenerga Mk.8
• Gun weight: from 1488 to 1480kg
• Cost of 1 (AP) shell: from 635 to 560
• Cost of 3 (HE) shell: from 405 to 300
Survivability:
• Hull armor: from 14/14/8 to 31.8/12.7/12.7mm
Turret 1/2 – Saladin Mk II
• Turret armor: from 25/16/16 to 31.8/12.7/12.7 mm
Turret 2/2 – Saladin-90
• Turret armor: from 25/16/16 to 31.8/12.7/12.7 mm
Mobility:
Engine 1/2 – Rolls-Royce B80
• Specific power: from 22.31 to 22.33 hp/t
Engine 2/2 – Rolls-Royce B81
• Specific power: from 23.84 to 23.86 hp/t
• Engine weight: from 459 to 457kg
Very good and needed buffs of the DPM and most importantly of the ammount of shells – we don’t need a MT line that has less shells than all LT’s, leading to the Manticore.
Though I wonder why were the tiniest of tweaks made? Like 25 h.p. less for the engine.
Also, one bizzare thing: with the top gun on the GSOR 1006 Sheme 7 you have 50 shells with the stock turret and only 40 shells with the top one! Like wtf?! Does WG want us to use the stock turret on this car?
No buff to concealment means that they are still not good, like a Leo does everything those tank does but better. I’ll say it again, buff the concealment and keep the DPM like this, no more gun buff its looking fine for now. (I could be wrong about the gun pens but I’m going off what I have seen) Let the concealment be no more then 18% (more like 17.80%) and on less then 15% (the lowest being 14.90%). I recommend the tier 10 and 9 have more concealment then the Leo counter parts. The Leo is just out performing these tanks.
Aslo why get these tank if the CS63 and Leo does everything better, you could say speed but the CS and Leo are already faster and have better power to weight too. So plz let me know if you see something different then just the wheel, that are worst then the EBR in every way that makes it even worst then the CS and Loe.
I’m glad I managed to get the Leopard 1 last month from the Top of the Tree event 😃
Buffing camo of these cars might make them from being underpowered to be a broken line super easily.
Remember that these cars are MTs and they won’t get matched up against LTs.
Being able to take LT’s role in a no-LT match in Prokhorovka will cause even more toxicity than LTs themselves.
To make these cars different from every other type of tanks in the game, just buff their viewrange, so they cannot scout actively, but they can provide really effective scout-countering plays.
But people think 20m more viewrange than the tier 10 RhmPanzerwagen will make these British wheelies the most broken tanks in the game, so let them be happy with a worse Leo1 line then.
Regarding the camo: I agree, that camo buff would help these cars out, but this is just making the British wheelies equivallent to the Leopard or K-91, which will simply make them uninteresting, since we already have this exact same gameplay in the game.
My take how the line could’ve been more novel:
I think that the wheels should’ve worked the same way they work on the EBRs, BUT with medium tank values for both the top speed (in rapid mode) and max wheel rotation angle (in cruise mode).
For instance, the Concept No. 5 in tier X could’ve had 68 kp/h in rapid mode (less than CS-63’s and Leopard’s 70 kp/h) and have 15 degrees of max wheel angle in cruise mode. The palyer would have a wheeled vehicle experience, whilst preserving the MT gameplay.
These should’ve been light tanks in my opinion. A slight buff to camouflage and not losing any during movement and they would’ve been good to go.