Supertest: Lorraine 50 t & Cobra (Initial Stats)

Very soon, two vehicles will be sent to the Supertest:

The Tier IX French Lorraine 50 t Heavy tank.

The Tier IX British Cobra Medium tank.

Despite its name, the Lorraine 50 t looks very different to its younger brother, the Lorraine 40 t. The main difference is the large turret that carries the 120 mm gun. It has a damage per shot of 400 HP, an aiming time of 3 s, and a dispersion at 100 m of 0.33. Its standard AP shell penetrates 264 mm of armor, while the penetration of its special APCR shell is 308 mm.

The vehicle is well-protected in the frontal projection, and the turret armor reaches 250 mm. The vehicle has 1,900 hit points. It has a top speed of 60 km/h, a specific power of 18.2 h.p/t, and a view range of 400 m.

The British Cobra is strikingly different from the French. It has a 120 mm gun with a 4-shell magazine that takes 50 seconds to reload, while the time between shots is 1.33 seconds. The standard HEAT shell penetrates 268 mm of armor and deals 360 HP of damage, while the special HE shell penetrates 219 mm of armor and deals 515 HP of damage. The vehicle features an aiming time of 4 s, and a dispersion at 100 m of 0.4.

It should be noted that the vehicle doesn’t have much to boast in terms of protection. In the frontal projection, the thickness of the armor plates reaches 130 mm. It has a top speed of 40 km/h, a specific power of 18.4 h.p/t, and a view range of 400 m.

Both vehicles behave very differently in battle, offering very different gameplay. The Lorraine 50 t has an accurate gun, is moderately dynamic, and is quite versatile and comfortable to operate. The Cobra has the ability to cause massive damage in close combat. Of course, each of them has its own weaknesses, but the understanding their strengths will allow you to get the most out of both vehicles.

Survey links for additional feedback below!

Cobra >

Lorraine 50 t >

Additional stats:

Dispersion during turret rotation – 0.08
Gun dispersion during hull movement – 0.14
Gun dispersion during hull traverse – 0.14
Dispersion after shot – 5
Shell Velocities – 793/1065/793
Terrain Resistances – 1/1.1/1.9

Lorraine 50 t

Dispersion during turret rotation – 0.15
Gun dispersion during hull movement – 0.14
Gun dispersion during hull traverse – 0.14
Dispersion after shot – 4
Shell Velocities – 1067/1334/1067
Terrain Resistances – 0.9/1/1.8

23 thoughts on “Supertest: Lorraine 50 t & Cobra (Initial Stats)

  1. Why would you get the Lorraine 50t over the M4 51…… the M4 51 has way better stats with it’s 120mm gun

    1. Because of way better gun soft stats (Dispersion) including the better accuracy, its mobility (speed) and turret armor combined with the -10.

    1. Yea, well – good luck doing those 2060 damage against s*itloads of overarmored hulldown tanks we have now in our standard high tier games.
      Of course, it will shine in those 2 games out of 20, where it will meet some lower tier less armored tanks, but altogether it will be huge frustration that you do not have any “magical” shells to deal with Chieftains, 279’s and all that crap.

      1. I have this feeling that the Cobra’s GOLD HESH ammo will be the only one HESH round in the game to actually be effective, otherwise it does not make sense for them to sell it, unless it is “free” and then it does make sense to be underpowered

        btw in which universe is it logical that a 120mm HEAT round does so much less damage than a 120mm AP round?
        the way they did this thing is really, really odd, that is why I feel like it’s HESH round will be “magical” and surprise everyone with average or above average damage rolls on 89% of it’s shots

  2. Anyone else surprised they remembered they had a finished model for the Cobra from at least a year ago?

  3. I thought that Strv K Is really bad tank with Its gun and paper turret, but theese two shits is another level

  4. well, it seems like they only got with high gdp-tanks. anyone still remember when chinese meds were crippled with -3°? sure it was way harder to play them, but well, one gotta learn. now everyone seems to be just “oh, a ridge. I fine with that, I got plenty of gdp”.

    and that Cobra will be toxix. like a Skoda on steroids …

    1. that Cobra will be toxix. like a Skoda on steroids …

      Have a closer look at the stats. Main ammo is HEAT (can expect low shell velocity, and HEAT is overall unreliable), gold ammo is the better alpha worse pen variety, clip takes forever to reload and it has trash aim time and trash accuracy.

      We can argue it is toxic because it’s an autoloader, but no way it is “a Skoda on steroids”.

      I do admit I would still play the Cobra over the GSOR 1008 and the Taliban though.

  5. None of these are problem tanks, I can see them being future Tier 9 premiums sold for cash, Strv K broke the taboo and there’s no reason for WG to hold back.

    Anyway, I’m interested in the Lorraine, conceptually it looks like a French T34 with better stats and I love my hulldowners (shame T34 has become impossible to obtain). Still, there’s an earlier version of the tank with different stats on (slower, less viewrange, but better hull armor).

    1. You must really be a sad pathetic individual to troll every post on here with the same bullshit.

      1. Right, I’m trolling. Let’s ignore the cuckholds like you who come here and talk random shit at people for the heck of it.

        Who are you anyway?

  6. Cobra silhouette is really, really good. Armor is obviously awful. Mobility’s pretty good too.

    TBH, I’d like to see the clipout change. 2.5s interclip reload gives someone a chance to react while still allowing the Cobra to punish mistakes and create plays. For that, the accuracy should probably drop to 0.37 or 0.38 or so, and the aimtime to something like 2.8 seconds. It really sucks to miss the side of a vehicle at 100m in an autoloader–in practice you either have to hold your fire to aim for so long you’re not seeing the fast clipout that you pay for in gun stats, or you miss/bounce half your fire and have to go spend another minute reloading, which also feels garbage.

    I feel the Lorraine 40t gets this balance right. You’re not unloading so much or so fast that you just utterly blow away an enemy tank like an AMX 50 100, but all of your damage goes in, and you can really punish aggressive plays or flanks with its accuracy and aimtime.

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