Supertest: Rebalance of German Medium Tanks

This time, more detailed changes in the characteristics of German medium tanks.

E 50 Ausf. M:

The armor at the front of the turret was increased from 185 to 250 mm.

E 50:

8.8 cm KwK L / 100 gun with E 50 Ausf A turret mounted:
Increased damage from 240 to 280 hp;
Increased damage of HE shells from 295 to 370 hp;
Average damage per minute changed from 2177 to 2539;
Average damage per minute with HE shells changed from 2676 to 3356.
8.8 cm KwK L / 100 gun with E 50 Ausf. B turret mounted:
Increased damage from 240 to 280 hp;
Increased damage of HE shells from 295 to 370 hp;
Average damage per minute increased from 3004 to 3504;
Average damage per minute with HE shells increased from 3692 to 4631.

Panther II:

8.8 cm KwK L/100 gun mounted on Panther II Schmalturm turret:
Increased damage from 240 to 280 hp;
Increased damage of HE shells from 295 to 370 hp;
Average damage per minute changed from 1877 to 2190;
Average damage per minute with HE shells increased from 2308 to 2894.

Panther 8.8:

Increased price of AP rounds from 252 to 676 credits;
Increased price of HE rounds from 252 to 616 credits;
Increased damage from 240 to 280 hp;
Increased damage of HE shells from 295 to 370 hp;
Average damage per minute increased from 2177 to 2539;
Average damage per minute with HE shells changed from 2676 to 3356.

15 thoughts on “Supertest: Rebalance of German Medium Tanks

    1. The 8.8 on the E50 is in my opinion underrated even now
      #permatrack
      #3for1

      P.S.:who the f would shoot HE with such a shitty penetration though? (38mm)
      They bring HE dpm up,for that 1/100 situation you’ll meet a paper tier 7 light coming at ya?

      Reminds me of how WG is talking about E50m’s ramming ability,when all you can expect is some minor 250 dmg rammsevery

      1. …now and then.
        “Ramming ability” is a pathetic WG excuse for E-50m, to justify one of the worst performing tier X meds.
        In all of my games in E50s all those years,i did a lot of minor 250-dmg ramms,some 400-500 every blue moon, and did only one 1200 damage monster ramm going downhill, on a poor T-62.
        I’d rather have +500 dpm in every single game,than doing a stinky 250-damage ramm every 1/50 games , or a 450-damage ramm every 1/150 games.
        Yeah, ramming is cool for the lol’s, but performing and winning is cooler.

  1. holy cow 3.5k base dpm at tier 9, this tank is going to be insane, and it’ll make the tier 10 all the more disapointing. They really need to buff its dpm as well

  2. Increased price of AP rounds from 252 to 676 credits;
    Increased price of HE rounds from 252 to 616 credits;

    and they said they dont nerf premium tanks… incoming back lash..

  3. “oh I know what the E 50 needs, more DPM on the L/100” said no one ever…

    I mean it’s cute that they are trying, and it will become a meme machine, but what’s the point of the top gun when they just keep buffing the 88?

    Might as well remove the 105mm from the E50 and E50M and give the E50M a 88mm L/150 for ultimate memes.

  4. This is retarded. They clearly have no clue what they are doing. Buff the E50/E50Ms 105 dpm and buff upper and lower hull armor. But most of all. Buff the turret sides. Heat auto pens. Also. Remove the stupid turret ears where the range finder is. Don’t fuck this up AGAIN WG. it’s not just Russian bias, it’s also anti-German

    1. I don’t think I agree with you. When a E50M is looking straight at you, the turret sides are 315mm effective against HEAT and 280mm effective against AP/APCR, which doesn’t matter because auto-bounce. The turret front buff is good enough to force tier 8 shoot to gold against it and still only have a 50-50 chance of going through. You certainly do not want a WoT Blitz E50M. Fair enough, they nerfed all tier 10 medium pen there, where the E50M itself dropped from 270 to 245 on standard rounds, but it is in a state where the only reliable way to pen an E50M turret by another medium is gold.

  5. The buff of the Panther 8.8 is downright retarded. For one, it is nowhere near enough to make the thing – one of the poorest-performing Tier VIII premium tanks – competetive. And for this 15% increase in DPM owners have to pay with at 150+ % increase in shell costs?

    Talk about fucking your customers over.

  6. WG just keep into being fail gaming. Panther 8.8 should be a tier 7, sniper, maybe lower their dpm and thats it. It cant match tier x battles thats all.
    The E50 with 8.8 cm was really great option even now (i does not have it, i sell this tank long ago when the tier X appear) but its clearly a good option.
    The e50M will be okey, a lot of bots still asking for dpm thats not the point of the tank, u can have a AMX30B with amazing dpm and u see is not that great in tier X battles. I prefer some more armor on turret sides plus this buff to turret front

  7. well, as much as I appreciate the ideas of the buffs: they do not really adress the problems of these tanks. the Panther 8,8 needs to be a little more nimble and especially better gun handling. and I am not talking about aim time but the awefull dispersion on the move and turret traverse. make it more of a snap shooter and it would be at least playable. and I am not even talking about the armor a T-44-100 has … (or the advantages the 100 mm gun brings against the tier 9 STRVs or autobounce in general).

    and as others wrote before: some 18% increase in aplha is welcome, but the price increase of the bullets is just insane and nowwhere justified.

    and I also think the DPM increase on the E50 is a little too much, especially on the 8,8 L/100.

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