Sandbox: HE Shells Damage Changes, part 2

This time the updated values of today’s Sandbox patch.

Source: wotclue

Calibre:
Alpha Damage:
1.6.1: Sandbox:
76 мм 156–260 55–95
90 мм 270–370 95–115
105 мм 360–510 130–180
120 мм 440–530 180–190
122 мм 450–560 180–190
130 мм 580–750 210–270
150 мм 890–950 320–330
183 мм 1750 480
Tank:
1.6.1:
Sandbox:
Sandbox, second iteration:
Gun:
Object 260 530 190 330 122 мм BL-13-1
Object 279 early 530 190 330 122 мм М62-Т2А
StuG IV 175 65 110 7,5 cm Stu.K. 40 L/48
Т 55А 420 150 265 100 mm Panzerkanone D-10T2S L/56
T28 Concept 420 150 265 105 mm Gun T5
Excalibur 190 70 120 76 mm ‚Excalibur’ Gun
Chimera 530 190 330 QF 5-in. Gun

Tank:
1.6.1:
Sandbox:
Sandbox, second iteration:
Gun:
МS-1 62 20 40 45 мм обр. 1932 г.
Pz.Kpfw. I 2>1
T1 Cunningham 36 15 25 37 mm Semiaotumatic Gun M1924
Renault FT Without HE rounds 13.2 mm Hotchkiss mle 1930
Cruiser Mk. I 2>1
Kolohousenka 65 25 40 47 mm Rychlopalné dělo Vickers L/20
Renault NC-31 42 15 25 37 mm KwK 36 L/46.5
Renault Otsu 55 20 35 37 mm Sogekihou
4TP 70 25 45 47 mm QFSA
Strv fm/21 16 5 10 20 mm akan m/Madsen
Fiat 3000 45 15 30 Cannone da 37/40
BT-2 62 20 40 45 мм 20К
Т-60 50 20 30 37 мм ЗиС-19
Pz.Kpfw. II Without HE rounds 2 cm Flak 38
M2 Light Tank 50 20 30 37 mm Gun M5
FCM 36 45 15 30 37 mm SA38
Cruiser Mk. II 3>2
Type 95 Ha-Go 95 35 60 5.7 cm Gun Type 97
Strv m/38 50 20 30 37 mm kan m/38 strv
Т-70 65 25 40 45 мм ВТ-42
Т-46 65 25 40 45 мм ВТ-42
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. E 90 30 55 5 cm Kw.K. 38 L/42
Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. G 40 15 25 3 cm M.K. 103
M3 Stuart 50 20 30 37 mm Gun M6
AMX 38 70 25 45 47 mm SA35
Somua S35 70 25 45 47 mm SA37
Valentine 4>3
Type 97 Chi-Ha 90 30 55 47 mm Gun Type 1
Strv m/40L 50 20 30 37 mm kan m/38-49 strv
BТ-7 3>4
SU-76М 3>4
Т-28 95 35 60 57 мм ЗиС-4
Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs 40 15 25 3 cm M.K. 103
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. J 90 30 55 5 cm Kw.K. 39 L/60
StuG III Ausf. B 175 65 110 7,5 cm Pak 39 L/48
M5 Stuart 50 20 30 37 mm Gun T16
M8A1 175 65 110 3-inch AT Gun M7
M7 5>4
AMX 40 175 65 110 75 mm SA32
Somua SAu 40 350 165 255 105 mm AC court mle. 1934 S
B1 70 25 45 47 mm SA37
Valentine AT 3>4
Matilda 110 70 110 OQF 3-inch Howitzer Mk. I
Type 1 Chi-He 100 35 60 Experimental 57 mm Tank Gun Shin
Sav m/43 370 130 230 10,5 cm kan m/44 sav
Lago 175 65 110 7,5 cm kan m/41 strv
А-20 4>5
КV-1 280 100 175 85 мм Ф-30
SU-122А 600 665 665 152 мм гаубица Д-1
Т-34 95 35 60 57 мм ЗиС-4
SU-85 300 105 190 85 мм Д-5С-85БМ
VK 16.02 Leopard 90 30 55 5 cm Kw.K. 39 L/60L
Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. H 410 145 255 10,5 cm Kw.K. L/28 (Фугаска)
StuG Ausf. G 175 65 110 7,5 cm Pak 42 L/70
VK 30.01 (H) 175 65 110 7,5 cm Kw.K. 42 L/70
M24 Chaffee 175 70 110 75 mm Gun M17
T1 Heavy Tank 185 65 115 76 mm Gun M1A1
M41 HMC 550 610 610 155 mm Howitzer M1
M4A1 Sherman 185 65 115 76 mm Gun M1A1
M10 Wolverine 185 65 115 76 mm AT Gun M1A2
AMX ELC bis 320 115 200 90 mm D. 915
S35 CA 320 115 200 90 mm AC canon DCA 30
BDR G1 B 320 115 200 90 mm DCA 30
AMX 13 105 AM mle. 50 445 495 495 105 mm obusier mle. 1950
Sherman III 185 65 115 76 mm Gun M1A1
AT 2 100 35 60 QF 6-pdr AT Gun Mk. V
Churchill I 175 65 110 75 mm Vickers HV
Type 3 Chi-Nu 175 65 110 7.5 cm Tank Gun Type 5
Ikv 103 370 130 230 10,5 cm kam ikv 102 (Не топ)
Strv m/42 185 65 115 7,5 cm kan m/43 strv
МТ-25 165 60 105 76 мм С-54М
Т-150 360 130 225 107 мм ЗиС-6
SU-8 600 665 665 152 мм гаубица МЛ-20 обр. 1931 г.
Т-34-85 300 105 190 85 мм Д-5Т-85БМ
SU-100 530 190 330 122 мм Д-2-5С
КV-2 910 330 580 152 мм МЛ-10 (Фугаска)
КV-1S 6>5
VK 28.01 175 65 110 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L/48L
VK 30.02 (M) 175 65 110 7,5 cm Kw.K. 42 L/70
Jagdpanzer IV 270 95 170 8,8 cm Pak L/56
VK 30.01 (P) 270 95 170 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56
VK 36.01 (H) 270 95 170 8,8 cm Kw.K. 36 L/56
T37 185 65 115 76 mm Gun T91
M6 320 115 200 90 mm Gun M3
M44 550 610 610 155 mm Howitzer M45
M4A3E8 Sherman 185 65 115 76 mm Gun M1A2
M36 Jackson 320 115 200 90 mm AT Gun M3
AMX 12 t 175 65 110 75 mm SA50
ARL 44 320 115 200 90 mm DCA 45
AMX 13 F3 AM 700 775 775 Canon de 155 mm de 33 calibres
Panhard AMD 178B 175 65 110 75 mm SA49 (EBR)
ARL V39 320 115 200 90 mm AC DCA 45
Cromwell 175 65 110 75 mm Vickers HV
AT 8 190 70 120 OQF 17-pdr AT Gun Mk. VII
Achilles 190 70 120 OQF 17-pdr AT Gun Mk. VII
Churchill VII 190 70 120 OQF 77 mm Gun Mk. II
O-I 890 320 555 15 cm Howitzer Type 96 (Фугаска)
Type 4 Chi-To 175 65 110 7.5 cm Tank Gun Type 5 Model I
Ikv 65 Alt II 320 115 200 9 cm Bofors L/53
Strv 74 185 65 115 7,5 cm kan strv 74
S-51 1050/1050 1165/1050 1165/1050 203 мм Б-4
SU-152 530 190 330 122 мм Д-25С обр. 1944 г.
IS 530 190 330 122 мм Д-25Т
КV-3 530 190 330 122 мм Д-25Т
Т-43 300 105 190 85 мм Д-5Т-85БМ
LTG 300 105 190 85 мм Д-5Т-85БМУ
Jagdpanther 420 150 265 10,5 cm Pak L/52
Tiger (P) 295 105 185 8,8 cm Kw.K. 43 L/71
Tiger I 295 105 185 8,8 cm Kw.K. 43 L/71
Panther 175 65 110 7,5 cm Kw.K. L/100
Spähpanzer SP I C 270 95 170 90 mm Mecar
M12 700/700 775/700 775/700 155 mm Gun M1A1
T25 AT 320 150 265 105 mm AT Gun T5E1
T29 420 150 265 105 mm Gun T5E1
T20 320 115 200 90 mm Gun M3
T71 CMCD 185 65 115 76 mm Gun T185E
Lorraine 155 mle. 50 700/700 775/700 775/700 Obusier de 155 mm mle. 1950
AMX AC mle. 46 400 145 250 100 mm AC SA47
AMX M4 mle. 45 320 115 200 90 mm DCA 45
AMX 13 75 175 65 110 75 mm SA50
Hotchkiss EBR 260 95 165 Canon de 75 mm Vo 1000 m/s (EBR)
Challenger 370 130 230 OQF 32-pdr AT Gun Mk. II
AT 7 280 100 175 OQF 20-pdr AT Gun Type A Barrel
Black Prince 190 70 120 OQF 17-pdr Gun MK. VII
Comet 190 70 120 OQF 77 mm Gun MK. II
O-Ni 890 320 555 15 cm Howitzer Type 96 (Фугаска)
Type 5 Chi-Ri 175 65 110 7.5 cm Autoloading Tank Gun Type 5
Ikv 90 Typ B 320 115 200 9 cm kan m/f
Leo 410 145 255 10 cm kan m/34
SU-14-2 1050/1050 1165/1050 1165/1050 203 мм Б-4
ISU-152 950 330 580 152 мм Д-4С
IS-3 530 190 330 122 мм БЛ-9
IS-М 530 190 330 122 мм Д-25БМ
КV-4 420 150 265 107 мм ЗиС-24
Т-44 330 120 205 100 мм ЛБ-1
LTTB 300 105 190 85 мм Д-10-85
Ferdinand 630 225 395 12,8 cm Pak 44 L/55
VK 100.01 (P) 630 225 395 12,8 cm Kw.K. L/50
Tiger II 420 150 265 10,5 cm Kw.K. L/68
Panther II 295 105 185 8,8 cm Kw.K. L/100
HWK 12 320 115 200 90 mm Mecar N
M40/M43 1050/1050 1165/1050 1165/1050 8-inch Howitzer M1
T28 515 185 320 120 mm AT Gun T53
T32 420 150 265 105 mm Gun T5E1
M26 Pershing 320 115 200 90 mm Gun T15E2M2
M41 Walker Bulldog 260 95 165 76 mm Gun M32 late
Lorraine 155 mle. 51 750/750 835/750 835/750 Canon de 155 mm mle. 1917 G.P.F.
AMX AC mle. 48 515 185 320 120 mm AC SA46
AMX 65 t 515 185 320 120 mm D. 1203
Bat.-Châtillon 12 t 260 95 165 Canon de 75 mm Vo 1000 m/s
Panhard AML Lynx 6×6 320 115 200 90 mm CN 90 F3
Charioteer 480/480 170 300 105 mm AT Gun L7
AT 15 280 100 175 OQF 20-pdr AT Gun Type B Barrel
Caernarvon 370 130 230 OQF 32-pdr Gun MK. II
Centurion Mk. I 280 100 175 OQF 20-pdr Gun Type A Barrel
O-Ho 890 320 555 15 cm Howitzer Type 96 (Фугаска)
STA-1 320 115 200 90 mm Gun Type 61
UDES 03 480 170 300 10,5 cm kan UDES 03
Emil I 460 165 290 10,5 cm TK 105-9
UDES 14 Alt 5 460 165 290 10,5 cm strvkan L/45
212А 1050/1050 1165/1050 1165/1050 203 мм Б-4
Object 704 950 330 580 152 мм БЛ-10
Object 257 530 190 330 122 мм БЛ-13-1 А
Object 705 640 230 400 130 мм С-70
SТ-I 530 190 330 122 мм М62-Т2
Т-54 420 150 265 100 мм Д-54
Т-54 330 120 205 100 мм Д-10ТМ обр. 1945 г.
Jagdtiger 700 250 440 12,8 cm Pak L/66
Mäuschen 630 225 395 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55
E 75 630 225 395 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55
E 50 510 180 320 10,5 cm Kw.K. L/52 Ausf. B
Spähpanzer Ru 251 320 115 200 90 mm Rheinmetall DM1
M53/M55 1050/1050 1165/1050 1165/1050 8-inch Howitzer M47
T95 950 345 600 155 mm AT Gun T7
M103 515 185 320 120 mm Gun M58
M46 Patton 480 170 300 105 mm Gun T5E1M2
T49 910/910 330/365 580/635 152 mm Gun-Launcher XM81 (conventional) (Фугаска)
Bat.-Châtillon 155 55 750/750 835/750 835/750 Canon de 155 mm
AMX 50 Foch 515 185 320 120 mm AC SA46
AMX M4 mle. 51 610 220 380 127 mm/54 Model 1948
Bat.-Châtillon 25 t AP 400 145 250 100 mm SA47
AMX 13 90 320 115 200 90 mm F3M
Panhard EBR 90 320 115 200 90 mm D. 921
Conway 770/770 275 480 B.L. 5.5-in. AT Gun
Tortoise 515 185 320 120 mm AT Gun L1A1
Conqueror 515 185 320 120 mm Gun L1A1
Centurion Mk. 7/1 480 170 300 105 mm Royal Ordnance L7A1
Type 4 Heavy 900/900 330/365 580/640 15 cm/45 41st Year Type (Фугаска)
Type 61 440 170 300 105 mm Rifled Gun
Strv 103-0 480 170 300 10,5 cm kan strv 103 L/62
Emil II 530 190 330 12 cm akan L/40
UDES 16 480 170 300 10,5 cm strvkan L/51
Object 261 900/900 1000/900 1000/900 180 мм Б-1-П
Object 268 1100 330 580 152 мм М-64
IS-7 640 230 400 130 мм С-70
Object 705А 840 330 580 152 мм М-51
IS-4 530 190 330 122 мм М62-Т2
Object 140 420 150 265 100 мм У-8ТС
Т-100 LT 360 130 225 100 мм Т-100
Jagdpanzer E 100 1400 415 725 17 cm Pak
Maus 630 225 395 12,8 cm Kw.K. 44 L/55
E 100 950 320 565 15 cm Kw.K. L/38
E 50 Ausf. M 510 180 320 10,5 Kw.K. L/52 Ausf. K
Rheinmetall Paznerwagen 420 150 265 105 mm Kanone
T92 HMC 1300/1300 1440/1300 1440/1300 240 mm Howitzer M1
T110E3 1100 345 600 155 mm AT Gun T7E2
T110E5 515 185 320 120 mm Gun M58
M48A5 Patton 480 170 300 105 mm Gun M68
XM551 Sheridan 910/910 330/365 580/635 152 mm Gun-Launcher XM81 (conventional) (Фугаска)
Bat.-Châtillon 155 58 750/750 835/750 835/750 Canon de 155 mm
AMX 50 Foch B 515 185 320 120 mm AC SA46
AMX M4 mle 54 640 230 400 130 mm/45 Model 1935
Bat.-Châtillon 25 t 480 170 300 105 mm mle. 57 (D. 1504)
AMX 13 105 480 170 300 105 mm D. 1504
Panhard EBR 105 500 180 315 105 mm D. 1504 (EBR)
FV4005 Stage II 1750/1750 480 835 183 mm L4
FV217 Badger 620 220 390 OQF 123 mm Mk. 1
Super Conqueror 515 185 320 120 mm Gun L1A1
Centurion Action X 480 170 300 105 mm Gun L7A2
Type 5 Heavy 900/900 330/365 580/640 15 cm/45 41st Year Type (Фугаска)
STB-1 440 170 300 105 mm Rifled Gun
Strv 103B 480 170 300 10,5 cm kan strv 103 L/62
Kranvagn 530 190 330 12 cm akan L/40
UDES 15/16 530 190 330 12 cm strvkan L/40

13 thoughts on “Sandbox: HE Shells Damage Changes, part 2

  1. They listened of what we said. Now it looks more great about how the dmg of HE and can work work with this.
    I wanna know what they did to the KV2 ap if anything changed with it.

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  2. I like that WG is finally trying to balance ammunition. But IMO they are failing here.

    Good thing: Premium ammo gets lower damage but higher pen.
    Bad thing: It is still “Premium” ammo, meaning it still costs way more credits.

    Good thing: “Standard” Ammo has more dmg than premium ammo, but less pen.
    Bad thing: They are just tuning the dmg up, meaning everyone has to “learn” the new values, gameplay would be completely different if they patch this to the live server.

    Good thing: Trying to adressing the HE non-pen damage.
    Bad thing: HE ONLY doing non-pen damage. Doing nearly no damage on well armored vehicles, which makes it completely useless and taking all the fun of derp guns away.

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    1. You obviously haven’t played on sandbox. This HE change is actually nerf to well armored tanks and buff to paper tanks because you can’t one tap them anymore.

      I tested HE on Is-7 and i delt 300 dmg to Maus turret or Type 5 while on normal server I would deal like 100 dmg or even less.

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  3. I love how they do a silent buff to arta…
    This second iteration is far better than the first for sure. Is it enough we will see. But man…
    Even when you think they almosr nailed the thread they fuck up another thing with buffing arta for absolutely no reason…
    Never ending story…

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  4. Yeah why not buff arta…. WG loves arta because they know how much players hate them, a form of deliberate trolling.

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  5. I love arty I have Russia X and Usa IX. You hate me because you love to camp. And if a arty player is a clicker, a tank players how is shooting? With his mind?

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  6. I just realized some vehicule changed tier ?!? Will this go live too ?
    I loved the M7 at tier 5. I don’t play it anymore, but I wonder what will it look like on tier 4…
    I don’t have the time to try the sandbox, did someone tried it ?
    Thanks !

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