World of Tanks – Join The New Ammo Tests on Sandbox!

Commanders!

After completing the first iteration of ammo rebalancing tests we carefully analyzed your feedback and the data obtained. We made the necessary conclusions, revised some of our previous decisions, and are now excited to invite you to participate in the next round of tests!

According to the results of our surveys, many players who had taken part in the ammo rebalancing tests on the Sandbox server agreed with the suggested changes. Most of their questions and suggestions were related to individual, but certainly important, aspects of the implementation of this concept, which we need to pay close attention to.

We’ve tackled those issues in this iteration, so jump right in and let us know what you think! Testing will again take place in an open format on the Sandbox server.

Testing Period: 5 – 15 July 2019

How Can I Take Part?

This time all players have access to testing; just download and install the client using the link below.

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Tweaks That Remain Unchanged 

The proposed HP improvement for low-tier vehicles was received positively by the players, so it will remain unchanged. But the rest of the proposed changes will be slightly adjusted. Let’s take a closer look.

Special vs. Standard Ammo

During the tests, standard shells performed much better than the special ones. As a result, our testers rarely used special rounds, even with unlimited resources. We would like the effectiveness of special shells to be comparable to the effectiveness of standard ones so that both types of shells are used by players depending on the situation.

But at the same time, we strive to avoid a scenario where special rounds would become unclaimed. During the previous iteration, the use of special shells decreased slightly below the expected threshold. This is why in the second iteration of the Sandbox we want to adjust the ratio of standard and special shell effectiveness by reducing the increase in damage of standard shells.

Standard Shell Damage 

Many players pointed to the greatly increased efficiency of vehicles with large-caliber guns (150 mm and above). As a most vivid illustration, the German TD branch with the Grille 15 at the top can be cited. The large calibers of this branch received a much too significant increase in damage and showed increased efficiency.

In the next iteration, we will make the damage distribution more linear and reduce the damage increase for guns with larger calibers from 40-43% to about 25%. So the increase in damage for Tier VIII-X vehicles will not be as significant.

Most other tanks will also lose some of their damage increase, but this loss will be less significant. For clarity, check out the alpha damage values ​​for a selection of tanks compared to the first iteration of tests in the table below:

 

Vehicle Caliber (in mm) Current damage  Sandbox Test #1 Increase (%) in Sandbox Test #1 Sandbox Test #2 Increase (%) in Sandbox Test #2
МS-1 45 47 57 21% 55 17%
Т-34 76 115 145 26% 140 22%
M26 Pershing 90 240 315 31% 290 21%
IS 122 390 525 35% 480 23%
IS-7 130 490 670 37% 600 22%
Object 268 152 750 1060 41% 930 24%
Grille 15 150 750 1060 41% 930 24%

These adjustments will help us level the effectiveness of all vehicles relative to each other.

Changes to the HP for Tank Destroyers and Individual Vehicles

For third-line tank destroyers (i.e. poorly armored vehicles such as the Grille 15), we will reduce their HP pools by about 5% (considering rounding). For some tanks, its parameter may reduce very slightly. This is due to the fact that we’re adjusting the rounding formula.

HE Shell Damage and SPG Durability

Some players pointed out that the increase in damage of the artillery standard shells by 22% was too significant, which were confirmed with our test results. Therefore, we will increase the damage of standard shells by about 11%, instead of 22% as was previously announced.

In addition, we’ll slightly reduce the HP of SPGs by around 10%.

During the first iteration of testing, many of you left your feedback not only on specific changes in shell mechanics, but also related areas, such as in-game economics, Personal Missions, and statistics.

We know that these are very important aspects of our game, so further testing will certainly be required before we implement changes. Let’s review some of your key concerns!

Personal Missions 

Most Personal Missions are in one way or another connected with dealing or blocking damage, so only after obtaining the final values ​​of these parameters can we reconsider the conditions of the missions. Stay tuned for further updates!

Changes in the Economy

Until we have finalized the ratio of damage to HP values, we cannot determine the optimal purchase and repair costs for vehicles. We will certainly keep this for further review, together with the profitability of battles. Our main goal is not to make fundamental changes and try to keep the balance of expenses and income of the player at the same level as now.

Game Statistics 

Some players raised concerns that after increasing the number of hit points, the game statistics (average damage done, average experience earned per battle, etc.) would no longer be relevant. This is an important issue, and we’re working on a number of possible solutions to resolve it, which might affect the way statistics are displayed. As soon as we have a prototype ready for this functionality, we will introduce it to the Sandbox.

HE Shell Damage 

We don’t plan to change the settings of HE shells at this time; however, we will continue to closely monitor their effectiveness. We would like to make sure that they are used mostly when:

  • Firing on poorly-armored vehicles or targets with low HP
  • Resetting base captures

Overall, HE shells should deal slightly more damage than AP shells, with the latter penetrating more often. Our current priority is the rebalancing of standard and special shells, while HE shells will be considered for revisions after this iteration.

Ammo Rack Capacity

For Tier I-VII vehicles, ammo rack capacity was proportionally increased to compensate for a more noticeable gain in their durability compared with the increase in their alpha damage.

For Tier VIII-X vehicles, their durability and alpha damage improvements approximately balance each other out, so they don’t need their ammo rack capacity to be increased yet. Of course, we are aware that when changing the ratio of the use of standard and special shells, it may be necessary to increase the ammo rack capacity of individual tanks, so we will examine this issue in future tests.

Join the Next Ammo Test! 

If you participated in the first round of shell rebalancing tests on Sandbox, you will be able to continue where you left off in the second iteration.

Get ready to join the next round of tests, Commanders! This is your game as much as it is ours, so we strongly encourage as many players as possible to participate in the Sandbox and share detailed feedback.

Let’s shape the future together!

 

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13 thoughts on “World of Tanks – Join The New Ammo Tests on Sandbox!

  1. “We managed to fix the gold ammo problem. But that’s bad because we want people to buy gold otherwise they don’t need premium time as much and we want your money at the cost of balance. Therefore, we will buff gold ammo.”

    TLDR gold ammo wasn’t spammed enough so they’ll reduce some of the alpha buffs they did to standard shells so people want to use gold some more.

    Which is a fucking joke. The whole point of that rebalance is to stop the awful gold spam meta we’re in. I don’t see how not using gold at all is an issue.

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    1. They weirdly miscommunicated what the problem was. Gold ammo still does a lot less damage than regular ammo; the problem was that hitpoints got buffed by like 25%, but alpha damage got buffed by 35%, and that sucked. Now alpha for normal rounds and hitpoints are both going up by about the same amount, which is good.

      I’m not worried… yet. Gold spamming will still be a retard move the way this is shaping up.

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  2. Wargame are pathetic bunch of Russian assholes
    NEVER listen to anything we say when they ask for our opinion

    THEN
    they make up complete shit that we LIKE what they do …… honestly jeez man
    Wargame treat us as complete kids in a kindergarten

    Wargame you lie so bad
    very few testers on the 1st Sandbox were happy with what you gave to test
    MOST gave other suggestions to the CONTARY of what you print on your homepage

    Wargame …. make it all up as they go along

    (now a Tier 7 IS Heavy can STILL almost 1 shot ANY Tier 5 with 480 alpha damage!!!
    yeah that’s game Balance??????
    morons just morons

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    1. Obviously you have no clue about the low tier hp pool buff and the hp buff over all vehicle together with the damage buff. That would be 31% for a tier 5 and 20% on average, likely more than 25% for a light armored vehicle like t-50.

      Currently t-50 has 350 hp and would be one shot by a IS with 390 alpha. After the adjustments it would have about at least 550 hp and won’t be one shot by the IS with 480 alpha, not to say other vehicles with more hp. Even now there are still many tier 5 heavy tanks with more than 480 hp.

      Your point that “a Tier 7 IS Heavy can STILL almost 1 shot ANY Tier 5 with 480 alpha damage” makes no sense to me. WG gives you EXACTLY what you want and you still complain. Yeah people like to make points without actually playing the test and even without reading the full changes.

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      1. mam what a idiot!
        do the math fool did u go to school?
        so only 31% damage to a Tier 5 from a Tier 7 Russia IS Heavy with 420 alpha

        lets see now 3 x 420 = 1260 hit points damage
        so YOUR say a average Tier 5 vehicle that LT or TD or MT etc, has over “1260” hit points (after the special shell Balance.

        after only 2 hits from a 420 alpha 122 Gun most l Tier 5 are kinda fucked over
        yeah balance ……
        btw,, Wargame gives only Wargame what it wants ((were just dollar bills that’s all

        anyway Mr fanboy … hand me some of that weed your smoking PLEASE

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  3. this is just next level of STUPIDITY !

    saying that players do not use enough “SPECIAL” ammo in their tests EVEN WITH UNLIMITED RESOURCES (credits) and DUE TO THIS, they consider it ineffective enough…is just BEYOND STUPIDITY !

    are you pure idiots or why do you think that players do not use special ammo? Or why THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT IT AFTERALL ???

    BECAUSE ITS PRICE IS IDIOTIC AND P2W !

    can you understand this??\
    THIS is why players do not use it whenever they want or even NEED IT ! Because its FUCKIN P2W !

    This have nothing to do with alpha damage increase on standard ones or anything else. Its just about PRICE !
    Thats why i do not use it in main servers and also on any tests ! BECAUSE I DONT WANT FUCKING P2W !

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    1. yes, I understand that all whiners here are idiots and butthurt …. not WG, but people like yourself are the ones who damage this WOT PC like this ……. !! ^^

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      1. really? Explain then

        they said that p2w ammo is not used enough now due to changes, but a lot of players do not use it due ti its idiotic premium price wich is still unchanged.
        So how is this a right result in testing?

        Main reason why secondary ammo is not used is because if it become BALANCED its PREMIUM PRICE have simply no place anymore.
        And they said that its not used because its still not balanced, suggesting in this way that current state is “balanced” just because its used.

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  4. Soooo WG if fixing a problem by making sure of making even bigger problem.

    So Premium ammo is a problem. Yet WG failed to notice why its a problem. Aka retarded armor layout. We have tanks that lack any weakpoints. Tanks that already have alpha ect. So they indirectly buffed super heavy tanks and TD’s. GG

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    1. Cumrade, we maek big problem, a less problem. Gold ammo is like graphite. Do you see any? No? No problem then, tiny radiation

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