Supertest: Panther II rebalance

Tier: MT-8
HP: 1500
Engine: 700 hp
Mass: 54,710 t
Power-to-weight: 12,79 hp / t
Maximum speed: 55 / -20 km / h
Hull Traverse Speed: 36 ° / s
Turret Traverse Speed: 31,3 ° / s
Ground resistance values: 0,767 / 0,959 / 2,014
View Range: 390 m
Signal Range: 740,4 m

Hull armor: 100/60 /? mm
Turret armor: 120/60 /? mm

It’s receiving a gun currently usable only on the E50: 8.8 cm Kw.K. L / 100
Damage: 240/240/295
Penetration: 223/261/44 mm
Rate of Fire 7.821 rounds/minute
Damage Per Minute: 1877,1
Aiming time: 2,11 s
Reload time: 7,671 sec
Accuracy: 0,288
Depression/Elevation: -8/20

Armor/gun schematics(armor is unchanged):


source: wotclue &




34 thoughts on “Supertest: Panther II rebalance

  1. There is no need to add the 88 L100 to the Panther II in my opinion….what are they smoking over there? Revert to the old top engine (900hp if I remember correctly) would be enough, which was removed quite some patches ago.
    Otherwise module HP buff would also be sufficient

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    1. i agree give its HISTORALY planed 900HP engine back and an aimtime buff from the current 2.3 to 2.1 an boom it will actually be a decent tank

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    2. Pantherii’s old engine is 870hp
      Not 900hp
      But i prefer to get the old powerful engine than get the most long 88mm gun


      1. yeah the old engine is 870hp but the panther 2 also had a planed 900hp and im not kiddy a gas-turbine engine rated at 1150 shaft HP but yeah id love the old 870 back atleast i know im not get the gas turbine engine😄 a boy can dream tho

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          1. if only if only….id shart my pants if WGing ever put the GT101 engine on the panther 2 hell id shart myself if they gave it the old 870 engine😄 but we all know that will never happen


  2. .. this is WOT, Russian dirt bags who make the game will do whatever it takes to nullify anything good about the german side.. I remember the launch, when they made this game to ‘accuracy’ the 88 was smoking the crap out of everything and the wee numpty russian fan boi’s were crying up a storm over it. Hence why we have so much ‘historical non accuracy’ of product.

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      1. Obviously just because it’s German he thinks it needs to be better than tier X mediums.
        Same kind of pathetic whining that ruined WT’s balance.
        Besides, if it was historically accurate, it wouldnt have a turret, or 88.

        And I dont even see a nerf, at all. Seriously, stupid illiterate wehraboo.


  3. If they put the 10,5 on the E-50 into Panther2 would be much better choice than this Long 8,8. The sub-2000 DPM for a t8+ MT with limited mobility is quite bad


    1. Yes, it should have the same depressionvalues as the regular Panther II. 8 degrees of gundepression all around and ~2,2 seconds aimingtime would make this tank on par with other Tier 8 premium mediums.


  4. Is that DPM-nerf? Just checked, and the rate of fire on the current L/71 is 8.57, giving it 2057 dpm. Did they change this on Supertest too? Or will it be a choice between a slower more accurate gun or a faster less pen 8.8? Of course its DPM will be more in line with the rest of the T8 (except obj416), moving it down from the indien and sta1, but I do think it should keep the ROF it currently have.

    Now the gun handling on that L/100 is very nice (apart from the ROF). Compared to the E50 version it is more accurate, much faster aim, but more then a bit lower ROF.


  5. I’m gonna rebuy this tank. Gun handling was what killed it, you had to expose yourself for to many seconds before taking a well aimed shot. If this becomes a snapshotter, it will be awesome. Historical accuracy or not, the tank will matter again.

    And about the DPM: I don’t find the lack of dpm to be harmful on the E-50. It does it’s damage consistently, so I think this would be fine too. I mean, you can also look at the VK45.03. It has better gun handling than the Tiger I, but it lacks a lot of DPM in comparison to the Tiger. However, it is much easier to do consistent damage in the VK. Most of the time you’ll get one chance to land a shot, and moments where you can put the full dpm to use are very rare. Only in good positions on open maps without arty… ’nuff said!😉

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  6. is it getting a faster aim time with the l100 than it gets with the 88 l71? lol if the aim time on the 88 l71 was good then i think this tank would be a lot nicer than it is currently but sadly thats not the case. either way its nice to have options gun wise.


  7. I like it, it makes more sense, fits the line better and makes the E50 grind easier.

    If you look at the whole line it has low-ish to mid DPM, great accuracy, good gun handling and very good penetration (E50 being the exception, trading pen for DPM and great platform). This gun is similar.

    One thing I’d like to see on Panther II is better armor, 180-200mm upper plate (effective armor ofcourse) would be ideal but really unhistorical, maybe a few degrees more sloping?


  8. Still slow, still trash armour, now it just gets better accuracy (unnecessary) and better pen (again not really necessary) but much worse DPM. “Rebalance”.


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