As it did the first time, now years later – its still bullshit what hes doing.
Hitting a CORNER of actually thick part of a car with a rubber hammer? 😀
But ruskie cars are really rugged – transfering from tractor to car manufactoring with minimal design changes.
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In mother Russia, tanks don\’t destroy cars, it\’s cars that destroy tanks.
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All and all that meme, but have you not seen russian military tech?
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So i was wrong the whole freaking time.
He shell (probably 155mm), HE, modern penetration techniques and it bounces off of the freaking 1mm scrap metal.
It was a 152mm HE round from the new 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV Russian SPG.
It bounced off 2mm of steel.
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Melt? This isnt plasma gun.
And if you look closely – it hit the farther side of the roof.
While having such kinetic power of a shell, the roof metal began acting…..like a paper.
You would need more force upon impact to detonate.
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I\’m sure he was referring to the immense friction it caused, overestimating it.
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Probably from experience going in dry ;D
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I thought that kinetic energy would upon contact transform into heat and there would be enough heat generated to change the characteristics of metal plate, make it soft and then just push through it… but obviously that didn\’t happen and doesn\’t happen because the tip of the shell has to make contact which forces the energy of the shell to be carried over to the metal plate (as in plate trying to stop the shell).
I hope this makes sense now.
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Metal is plastic, but its because of kinetic force, not heat.
Heat would have metal to be glowing red hot – you would need probably 10m long shell for friction to make difference 😀
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I know what you mean here but i would just like to point out that there is no need for metal to glow hot for it\’s characteristics to change (stress/strain diagram at different temperatures)
Also metal is actually elastic and only when stressed too hard goes into the plastic state (if you had this in mind – again stress/strain diagram and hardness tests like Brinell, Rockwell, Vickers…).
What i imagined was wrong since the shell would just tear apart a really thing plate… but when it hits it at extreme angles and projectile head doesn\’t even make contact with the armor then armor just acts in it\’s elastic region, then partially transfers into plastic region and back to elastic region of yield point (in school we usually marked it with R).
But i don\’t know much about penetration so i won\’t be smart here.
It\’s just how imagined it at first (melting etc.) before i realized that chances of extreme temperatures being generated like that are non existent.
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Some kids might believe that shell should\’ve evaporated the roof – just because \”sonic speed and heavy shell\” 😀
Thats HEAT projectile – of course it didnt penetrate hitting itself already by side 😀
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There has to be some real physics, and some unreal. Because it\’s just a game.
They can\’t do whole new normalization just because of some new tanks. They HAS to do whole new system. I belive it will cost some money and some time – they are able to do that, but they are lazy greedy bastards too.
Fact like – every single shell calibre is exact same dart. So with 183mm. caliber, you can shot between two obstacles which are from each other just two milimeters.
Fact like gun is just a hitbox which can go thru things – which mean that shell comes from turret reather than from end of a barrel – which means that incredible situation when you shot reach line just because shell is curving too soon.
This is just old game with old mechanics. Shame they are making some stupid fucking premium tanks reather than evolving base game mechanics.
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Who saw that shell is just a he shell? Why it didn\’t explode after it hit obstacle? Bad shell? Too tiny obstacle? They want to show that XX mm. caliber can bounce? Waste of time.
\”Ivan, stop shooting thermos!!!\”
\”You see, Igori, if you shoot thermos – enemy run of fear burning their face\”
The person who donked the shot is in the gulag as we speak.
OMG remove overmatch from the game IMMEDIATELY, it\’s not historical
Thats what WG did – they removed historical 😀
They are already in the process 😉
you are probably fucked if you are in the car in that moment.
Magic Russian armor!
Italian design, russian steel refined.
Lada OP pls nerf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbJmhT5LH9E
As it did the first time, now years later – its still bullshit what hes doing.
Hitting a CORNER of actually thick part of a car with a rubber hammer? 😀
But ruskie cars are really rugged – transfering from tractor to car manufactoring with minimal design changes.
In mother Russia, tanks don\’t destroy cars, it\’s cars that destroy tanks.
All and all that meme, but have you not seen russian military tech?
So i was wrong the whole freaking time.
He shell (probably 155mm), HE, modern penetration techniques and it bounces off of the freaking 1mm scrap metal.
I honestly though that would melt the metal piece.
https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder503/500x/19658503.jpg
It was a 152mm HE round from the new 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV Russian SPG.
It bounced off 2mm of steel.
Melt? This isnt plasma gun.
And if you look closely – it hit the farther side of the roof.
While having such kinetic power of a shell, the roof metal began acting…..like a paper.
You would need more force upon impact to detonate.
I\’m sure he was referring to the immense friction it caused, overestimating it.
Probably from experience going in dry ;D
I thought that kinetic energy would upon contact transform into heat and there would be enough heat generated to change the characteristics of metal plate, make it soft and then just push through it… but obviously that didn\’t happen and doesn\’t happen because the tip of the shell has to make contact which forces the energy of the shell to be carried over to the metal plate (as in plate trying to stop the shell).
I hope this makes sense now.
Metal is plastic, but its because of kinetic force, not heat.
Heat would have metal to be glowing red hot – you would need probably 10m long shell for friction to make difference 😀
I know what you mean here but i would just like to point out that there is no need for metal to glow hot for it\’s characteristics to change (stress/strain diagram at different temperatures)
Also metal is actually elastic and only when stressed too hard goes into the plastic state (if you had this in mind – again stress/strain diagram and hardness tests like Brinell, Rockwell, Vickers…).
What i imagined was wrong since the shell would just tear apart a really thing plate… but when it hits it at extreme angles and projectile head doesn\’t even make contact with the armor then armor just acts in it\’s elastic region, then partially transfers into plastic region and back to elastic region of yield point (in school we usually marked it with R).
But i don\’t know much about penetration so i won\’t be smart here.
It\’s just how imagined it at first (melting etc.) before i realized that chances of extreme temperatures being generated like that are non existent.
Some kids might believe that shell should\’ve evaporated the roof – just because \”sonic speed and heavy shell\” 😀
haha that kid was me before i actually started thinking logically about this thing XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo-0ytcEXKg
Welp, what he is saying is true – success only comes after many failures.
And if you rip the hinges off – only police will come xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSk925M4UgU
Thats HEAT projectile – of course it didnt penetrate hitting itself already by side 😀
There has to be some real physics, and some unreal. Because it\’s just a game.
They can\’t do whole new normalization just because of some new tanks. They HAS to do whole new system. I belive it will cost some money and some time – they are able to do that, but they are lazy greedy bastards too.
Fact like – every single shell calibre is exact same dart. So with 183mm. caliber, you can shot between two obstacles which are from each other just two milimeters.
Fact like gun is just a hitbox which can go thru things – which mean that shell comes from turret reather than from end of a barrel – which means that incredible situation when you shot reach line just because shell is curving too soon.
This is just old game with old mechanics. Shame they are making some stupid fucking premium tanks reather than evolving base game mechanics.
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Who saw that shell is just a he shell? Why it didn\’t explode after it hit obstacle? Bad shell? Too tiny obstacle? They want to show that XX mm. caliber can bounce? Waste of time.