What do you all think about this?
Does WG really have a lack of money?
Maybe they should stop spending it on pointless projects like “Cold War” or “Steel Hunter“.
“I honestly don’t believe September will change anything or bring players back.”
What do you all think about this?
Does WG really have a lack of money?
Maybe they should stop spending it on pointless projects like “Cold War” or “Steel Hunter“.
“I honestly don’t believe September will change anything or bring players back.”
We don’t know how badly pulling out of Russia hurt WG. We don’t know how beholden they are to outside investors that they might have mortgaged themselves to so as to finance the pull-out. For all we know September will bring a true WoT 2.0. Or maybe WG believes that Project CW will bring them a new audience. But we have no sense of those last two potentials being accurate. Or that this price-gouging is justified to finance the potential WG sees. All that is for sure is that WG has spent the last five months shooting off one toe after another to the point that my expectation is that they’re going to fall.
To me the real screw-over was bringing the WTF 100 back to the game without offering it FOR NOTHING to all those who ground it out originally, and had it taken away; that would have bought WG enormous good will. Good will they badly need.
that also would have butchered the MM for years.
YOu got a replacement, so did i. Yes, its no WT, but thats life.
I understand the sentiment and the idea but it is quite clear why WG did not do that (although it could have broght some palyers back)
with 5k WT sold, the MM has no problem. With the probably 30k+ that everyone grinded? ohboy. Especialy as its a reward vehicle…
And yes, we dont know wgs exact situation. But if they can have the neon rush mode, without loot boxes, and then this mode, with loot boxes worth around 3-4events, they could have split them apart better.
Who knows why they decided this approach. Im not even mad at them, dont really care. but the Community AND CC were clearly united o this one
“With the probably 30k+ that everyone grinded?”
Wot-Lifes says there are/were 421445 individual accounts who had at least 1 battle with the WTF100 on the EU server.
The funny part is that there are 2491 accounts with at least 1 battle on the Phönix. That means not even half of that shitbox sold were actually used.
that makes my point even more. imagine if there would be 40k wt in the MM
nothing would happen. still less toxic than doing 1800+ in a single shot, and way easier to kill.
way easier to kill? Than what exactly? it seeems to me you are referring to the FV 4005 because of the 1800+ damage (although the replacement for the WTF was… the JagdE? I dont remember) or the other FV? Both are arguably easier to kill than a WT.
But the point is how WT changes the Matches. It makes them faster than any 1800 shell would. Especially in good palyers hands in platoons. but also in bad players hands.
I understand seeing a WT eevery few matches doesnt sound like horror
But thats the case with only 2500 actively played.
Imagine that half of the 40k players would use it 20k in queue…No way that would be a good experience
Wargaming best business was to split away from World of Tanks Russia-Putin Promoted Lesta…. Lesta WoT cant even follow own country rules
nobody was talking about that.
maybe stop parroting the same bullshit under every single fucking post.
It does matter considering the some people in comments (and Lesta-panders) like to compares….once again Lesta cant even follow their own country laws
(also, mezfi group doesn’t like when people go against Lesta Wot)
BS They are killing the game. Sounds like accountant is in control of the company. Every company with accountant in control are destroyed.
So this was a “we know this is one of the worst monetization decisions out there, but we need the money to avoid staff cuts, delays, etc. for the big September announcement”
This is not the first time Iive heard of this type of situation, and it always ends badly
Sounds like chems was right. The company is bloated. They should fire 80% of the team.
he was right but few years ago, now he is insane and is just a cry baby dogshitting around about everything for the applause of his mental 12yos worshipping audience
this grown man went insane OVER DISCORD BAN and video game lets be honest this man is not serious and you can not take his word
I never knew that man, listned that single video he made and I found myself agreeing with about 80-90% of what he was saying. The other 10-20% I van’t have a pont because those are topics I’m unfamiliar with. Like the part about Babyboo or whoever it was…
I dont know that man. And I live happy.
This has to mean a megaserver where any account can play on any region. Its also easier to monetize one giant pool of players instead of multiple region server populations.
Already known it will be a server merge.
replace “on any region” with “on one server”.
development
fucking wankers want to buy another bilding in cyprus
they fucking spended money to run for belarus president fucking ignorants pessants
they feel like shit and made no money ?\
GOOD for them and fuck them all
I’m a simple babywhale who were and still knew nothing about Chems. I listened that 4+ hour long video in a span of 4-5 days and found myself agreeing with it in about 80-90% of the topics he touched and the solutions he came up with.
What I see on this screenshot has the very disturbing undercurrent of WoT coming to a point of “make it or brake it” in the form of the september update. In my opinion it shouldn’t have been allowed to came to that.
I had no time for that but skipped through the timestamps.
Most info was outdated or irrelevant imo.
The game is fine as is, only needs a nerf to premiums. All othe rmechanics and ideas are fine and work well on EU server.
The new MM is WiP but looking great so far.
It helps when you have an hour long commute.
The new MM is another beautypatch on a fundamentally flawed system. As long as you don’t balance the teams by the players stats/skills, having a good, neck-and-neck game is purely by chance and there remain the usual 1-15 battles. On a vision-heavy map like Prokhorovka or Malinovka the imbalance between the scouts in the battle can doom another 12-14 players on the map from the start.
thats personal preference though. I dont WANT skilled games. fine, to make all you ppl happy they can switch the players AFTER the match was set and 30 werde chosen. These are RANDOM nbattless, so yes – of course they are random. thats the whole point.
So far the MM Test Eu1 showed me the difference, i have almost no 1:15 any more, and the games play much nicer. no need to change what isnt broken
with fair tank subclass balance and less – 2 the MM is already good. they can still add skill MM if they aeunhappy with the data. the new system is far more than cosmetic because they CAN finetune it as they wish
we will see.
premiumtanks however can not be changed, only balanced. you can be a top skill player in an XM57 and have all the impact – just as a tomato can . because of the tank
but thats just my view. Everyone may have their own. I just dont like ppl saying how to “fix” the game – becauise only WG has the data necessary to show what is actually broken, the rest are just personal opinions. even if they are very wellthought out and phrased.
Im sure a game design background helps understanding some “fixes” would simply not work
finally some opinion that i can agree on; guys you have to understand game is fine as it is; and as you are saying nerf to premium, yeah but those that put every other tank obsolete like even 90, leFH 105, bz176, and im not saying to nerf it to oblivion, just make it actually balanced so ex. playing other t8-9 light other than even90 is just obsolete and irrelevant. i would also suggest huge nerf to all t10 view range is needed because whats even the point of playing t8-10 lights when stupid random batchat25t can just outspot you, even more whats really the point of light tank in t10 when every tank can spot for himself and his team with its gazilion metres view range, i get it light tanks are faster etc. but yk what i mean
no but really even bz is lesser concern, because whats even the point of playing light tanks other than even90 and manticore
yes of course – no need to nerf all premiums in general, but they should not be mcuh better than all other rtanks of their class. imo they shoould be valid credit making alternatives or special tanks compared to tech tree, buit not stronger in all ways.
T532 would be a good example. but the yalso dont have to be copies
thx for your opinion, its not often I find people who think similat
PS: my first solution to light mediums would be removal of CVS for mds. have it as a light only option. might be enough already to help
Nothing unexpected. Although, it’s a shame, that Dwight takes the hate, he is just a messenger, nothing more.
And if money was such a concern for WG, they could’ve made 2 standard lootbox events – one in April and one in May with, say, 4 new tanks each, including tier 10s. Then, a person who has everything, would need to open 400 boxes across the two events, which is not far off of what you need (on average) in the new event, but you have the standard 50-box guarantee. Also, many people, who aren’t buying boxes now, definitely would’ve bought boxes from these 2 imaginary events. And imo the profits for WG would’ve been the same, if not better.
So, yes, WG are shooting themselves in the foot… Oh wait, after the Waffenträger sale, there was only one foot left
Well, ppl complained about permanent lootbox events too. this maybe was WG trying to reduce that amount by just adding more to buy at once
i think they sealed their fate this year.
the dumb fucking bullshit they are constantly doing, the aggressive, scammy monetization. the fact that while they are doing all of those they cant fix a fucking sync issue between server and client so the gun of dead tanks fuck over people for like 4 months now, while they can fix an exploit in their last stand mode in like 24 hours, all these dont really help them.
not to mention shit like putting in fv td in the bond shop and making a dbv an assembly tank while buffing fucking tds, like tier 10 isnt unplayable already.
To be fair, that eyploit was an easy hot fix with invisible walls. a serverside issue is much more delicate.
However it should be fixed by now, just as for example view range display issues, or not being able to chat when startup animations play.
However its my hope that they will fix it all at once for the patch, or that they change something tehre so fixes wont be necessary. guess we wil have to see
an issue that didnt exist for 14 years, with much less devs, and much more players, now needs half a year of work for a 4000 employee company?
they just dont care. when the money would stop coming, they would fix it in the next morning micro-patch.
the question is always, what caused the issue. can it be easily reverted or would that break a new system introduced with it?
for example, if the issue started once double barreled tanks came (and first WG would need to find out that was the date) then they would need to analyze all code related to that.
Its not like someone added a code saying “turn the guns a few degree down when tanks die”.
So they need to
find out the patch that started the issue
find out what may have caused it
Check the code, analyze it and ideally isolize the part that created the bug
If they are lucky, they can simplychange it back or edit it so the issue doesnt happen.
Still afterwards a micropatch needs creationand QA time.
But more likely, it willbe a code that cannot simply be changed as it defines a mechanic.
In my example that could be that the bug is caused by the inactive barrel closing animation.
THEN you need to programm a different way thats compatible with the previous code. implement it and the WHOLE mechanic needs to be tested again.
Its not simply a question of if the code compiles.
Of course its possible someone just forgot a comma somewhere
In any case- thats by no means a defending of WG. Within half a year it should be possible to fix the issue or tell players theyknow about it (they never did such thiings before butit isandwould be goodpractive)
BUT adding an invisible wall is a much easier task, not even a developer necessary, that can be done per hotfix
WG is lacking money? Bullshit.
WoT would’ve died a while ago if WG was actually unable to finance its development, yet these guys went so far as produce more IPs like Project CW and there have been no signs WoT is in any financial difficulties – development of new content (mainly premium at this point) is ongoing and shows no sign of stopping.
People still play too, there are no signs of an active playerbase decline.
My take is WG is simply milking whales, there is nothing else to it. What they said on discord is “we know this will be unpopular but we are going ahead anyway, we know we’ll profit from this” – exactly the same thing they did with Phoenix in January 2025. Expecting anything else from a company like this is delusional.
If you READ what they wrote, its clear what they need: money to pay the workforce behind the giant patch that we didnt see yet.
This is not to pay for the ordinary usual content updates, this is for a (hopefullly) one time patch that needs far more resources than usual.
However if they planned this they could have just saved some money. I guess its one of the late problems the lesta split broght.
thats an interesting way of thinking.
people need to be paid either way, its not like devs get their salary based on the content amount they make. if it was that way, all of them would have starved to death in the past almost decade.
they are spending money on dead projects like cw and the mech dogshit, and ofc the cocaine that gives them all the inspiration for the worst decisions a company can make.
that “big patch” is just cope, there is literally nothing indicating it will be a big patch.
what, a 50 sec teaser showing nothing?
what about when they made a video about all the content coming in the year, rebalances and shit? type 5 huh?
no, they are just scamming people until they can, while doing the least work possible.
that “big patch” will be the final nail when it wont even be big and/or will be fucking ass and will just make the game even worse, all in the name of making the game easier for new players, even though there are no new players, and havent been for years, everybody knows by now to keep their distance from a wargaming title.
i agree though, they should have made the 2025 preview different however i assume they just have the big patch altogether and cant really show anything still. maybe we wil lhear sth soon…
Another point you mention as a negative are othe rprojects from WG. I assume, b ynow, WG as a company has different subareas which are independent. So its not possible to take funding from one project and put it to another sponteanous. And its important for a game company tto try and expand. WoT probably wont be able to use the resources game slike the project will have – this can be sen as all the studios are in different locations. and of course all have their plans.
you coiuld make a trump and sudddenly change the funds and resources, nbut again, contracts and location are an isseu.
A company like WG needs a huge amount of money just for one patch? I don’t believe that.
Not that this fabled “September patch” is going to do anything – maps won’t become larger and be reworked so all vehicle classes have a role, premium ammo won’t stop being pay2win cancer, monetization won’t become less aggressive, etc.
I would not be surprised if the “September patch” turns out to be something like the old 10.0 Rubicon attempt.
No signs of player decline??
Just stop commenting on things that are above your brain understanding please
Lots of whiny bitches. Cry more.
WG has money, but they also need to ear it. im fine with that. but they could have earned enough with normal lootboxes or a fairer system like goldcompensation PLUS a high tier sphere if you already have the tank.
And they HAVE TO Reduce the volume. 1.5k to get all tanks is insane. even 700 is a lot. Because – this is now an event thats every quarter year.
I am happy to afford 250 ONCE a year. But even 500 would be far to much for each evennt, and they tripled that.
No matter how much money they need, no overhyped patch ca fix that.
Tbh their best strat would have been to SHOW actually WHAT they have planned, because ppl can decide then if its worth that “giant patch”.
I fear they wil simply bring tier 11, which i dont care about, and their massive rebalance wont include premiums, which would in my opinion be necessary.
The ONLY way this extreme monetization would be worth it for me though, if they DID nerf premiums on that patch – and need money for the potential lawsuits, even tough they would win them.
Good to see an official answer, but that they bet all on this one patch seems… dangerous after rubikon.
But on the other hand that mens a LOT of development goes there. Im open minded but slightly pessimistic that I woont feel like it s “THE” Patch.
The can monetarize more and more and more. And they can put up lootboxes at expensive prices every week. But i simply WILL NOT BUY THEM or spend them anymore money. This greedy company has lost their reputation and confiance.
WG logic:
– getting a loads of money from our main game
– burning a loads of money into shit side projects
– all the “new games” are failures
– still hosting those new games infrastructure which costs money
– putting more hardcore monetization mechanics into the main game
rinse and repeat.
And they don’t know what they are doing wrong. But they’re saying: they have to hit the financial margin.
This whole company can rot in hell with all their “staff”. To be honest, if I would be a game publisher, I would NEVER EVER hire ANYONE who coming from WG. You can say anything that they are just employees and stuff, they given their name to this for long years. I would never trust somebody with important work who was giving his/her/whatever name to stuff like this.
Too much waste and resources into Steelhunter type stuff
They only ever needed to expand the maps in randoms, which is finally being addressed
If they want more proper players then get rid of the aimbot cheeters
Wavy aimbot on tank? Tank goes to wavy aimbot player server for 48 hours
It’s that old successful company problem of too much money but not enough proper focus
what exactly would be the purpose of an aimbot in the slowest fps game?
what you cant use the pen indicator by yourself?
cant lead a shot?
saying aimbot is just massive copium bro nothing else.
there are cheats for this game sure, but complaining about aimbot is just funny.
Dwight comments don’t actually mean anything. Is English it’s first language?
Because I don’t get how anyone can interpret his comments to mean wot is bankrupt lol
I do agree with chems assessment that wot needs to get rid of bloat and shitty side projects that always fail.
Even new wot modes fail on launch so that’s nothing new.
If WG aren’t making money then they seriously need to look at themselves not look at monetisation as a solution and still keep the same internal costs is ridiculous business management, but they are fucking Belarus so…..
a company needs side projects to survvive and habve investors. there is a thing like player decline. its slow because wot is a great game andstill very largeaudienceineurope.butit will be gone oneday and as a company you HAVE toinvest smallmoney in other projects.other devs, elsewhere, theywont helpwith big patch anyways.
Stop commenting you are a dick mother fucker
You all realize that you don’t HAVE to pay them anything right?
You don’t NEED the boxes!
WG would do absolutely anything other than give the playerbase what they’re demanding and monetize in a way that doesn’t make the community actively hate them in the most absolute terms. There’s nothing smart about this, it’s just probably the worst management in the industry (let’s be honest, they’re worse than EA at this point) being themselves and showing exactly how horribly bad they are. I don’t know if this debacle is going to kill WoT, but at this point I don’t even care anymore and I don’t see a way I’ll care again. Cheers to everyone who frees themselves of this cancer of a game.
If I owned WG I would just sell it now to EA or another developer
i genuinely couldnt agree more, like actually nodding rn
This is the end and they want to grab as much money as they can, game is competitive dead for 10 years atleast, now is just in joke state with copycat tanks and events with occasional 7vs7 joke cw campaign or onslaught. Game is running bcs there is players who are wealthy or they are stupid enough to throw money at them…
Have you let off steam? Are you better? Come on, get on with your life.
They invested so much money on something that nobody wants, Hero Shooters but with tanks.
They have the game that has absolutely no competition, the game that gave them so much money and a loyal community.
But instead of trying to make it last as long as possible, they milked it like there’s no tomorrow.
Nobody knows why they can’t balance the fcking game. They got all the feedbacks, all the datas, literally every fcking thing that they needed to make the game good.
But they just don’t.
It doesn’t matter how much you love the game, your love will eventually die off of something that is in fact abandoned by its creator.
September big announcement? Some small changes that take them ages + more lootboxes?
Oh I forgot, they have to survive from this scam event first.
They cant balance game bcs they dont have capable employees who can do that, first they “fired” all map creators and rest of team and got cheap replacement, now the are no one left and game is running on fumes with minimal work force.
The game is basically cooked and has been for a while. I don’t think the september update will change much about it either. The barrier of entry for new players is simply too high and they’ll get kicked in the face by veteran players / whales who already have everything at every step of the way. It’s just a matter of keeping said veteran players entertained now and the whales among them satisfied so they can keep spending money on whatever new shiny toy there is and eventually even those players will grow bored, the player numbers will go down, the p2w and extreme tanks etc. will get more and more to sustain income and then eventually the game will implode on itself and slowly die basically. It’s still years until we’re at that point but I really think that is the sad but true future of WoT with where the game’s been heading these past years.
Did your mum leave you outside the local church when you were born?
I don’t get all you whining crybabies – Just quit playing it and f*ck off! Why spend energy on long, boring and negative forumposts. You got to have something better to do with your lives? Go play something else instead.
Let us who still enjoy WoT, and don’t spend our time crying about it, continue to play it.
However. I do agree about one thing though. The price for the new lootboxes are way off the charts. Not that I can’t afford it. It’s just a personal principle of mine – how much I’m willing to spend on this game. That line is crossed this time – so, lootboxes for me this time.
My bad. It should read “NO” lootboxes this time. But you probably understood that.
yes, only positive feedback is allowed, negative people just fuck off. why would people voice the negative things, why give feedback when you can fuck off, right?
great way of thinking, flawless.
Lets read what the experts says
Look I have an ELC, a Bourrasque, a BZ and a couple of other premium top tanks. So I don’t really care if other tanks come out. I’m not spending a $1,000 a year on this game. I don’t get FOMO, so I don’t think this is really an issue.
I just think they need more maps, or to work more of the older tanks back into the game. If they keep upsetting everyone though they will lose a lot of players.
sorry I meant some of the older maps back (refreshed).
Players like you are precisely what is wrong with WOT
The thing is that we support the game by buying their stuffs. Meanwhile, what are they doing?
They invest the money we give them on other projects, make more lootboxes, and only spend a tiny amount on actual game developments.
That’s why it takes them so fcking LOOOOOOOOOOONG for some small changes to happen.
This cycle has been on repeat for quite a few years already, and people are getting sick of it.
That’s why they’re getting bigger backlashes every single time they release a gambling event.
Ignorance can be a bliss surely. You can still play the game, but I’m not so sure how much you enjoy all those BSes that are currently happening in the game, from broken tanks to unbalanced maps to bugs.
Even someone like me who has been with the game ever since its release in my region, is getting tired.
It’s just sad.
I just just play some of the events and only frontline now.
Not played random battles for 4 years. Not spent any money for 6 years.
I don’t need 800 tanks, gimmick mechanics or the latest OP teir 8 rocket booster drum reautoloader….
WG is not short of money. WG is not short of money. The problem is probably more what they do with it…