Two vehicles are coming to the Supertest today. The Charlemagne – British Tier VIII heavy tank and the K-91 Version II – Soviet Tier VIII medium tank.
The Charlemagne is equipped with a well-stabilized 120mm gun capable of causing 440 damage per shot. Both the standard and special ammo are AP shells that can penetrate 220 and 270 mm of enemy armor, respectively. Their drawback is a relatively low shell velocity (~600 m/s and ~900 m/s, respectively). The gun accuracy is 0.44, the aiming time is 3.2 s, the reload time is 16 s, and the view range is 380 m.
The vehicle’s durability is 1,500 HP. The frontal armor is quite sturdy: up to 170 mm on the turret and 130 mm on the hull. Considering the angles of the sloped armor plates, the overall frontal armor resembles that of a Tier IX vehicle. The vehicle, which has a specific power of 18 h.p./t, reaches speeds up to 42 km/h.
Thanks to the combination of dynamics and protection, the Charlemagne can both support heavy tanks and push the enemy line with allied medium vehicles. The gun depression angle is an incredible -10 degrees. In combination with the solid turret, the Charlemagne can take maximum advantage of any terrain. However, the gun handling is far from perfect, a fact that should be considered when choosing tactics.
This vehicle was previously part of a Supertest, but as a Tier IX tank. For the current testing iteration, it was rebalanced for Tier VIII, but its key features were kept: good dynamics, nice protection, and high firepower. The K-91 Version II is a classic medium tank designed for rapid attacks and dynamic combat.
Keep in mind that these are not the final stats.
Source: EU Forums
…how strange. The K-91 looks like a funny tank, but also extremely redundant and pointless with the Object 274a just sitting there. Like, idk, maybe this thing’s armor is actually really good or something?
The Charlemagne just looks straight up broken. Like, unless that thing’s turret armor is just straight up bad, then this thing actually should be a tier 9.
EDIT: Oh wait, the ROF and reload is atrocious. I wonder if they’re doing the 122 TM approach to balancing and trying to see if horrible DPM can be enough to offset everything else about a tank being varying degrees of great.
well they borked the gun and engine it seems, it only ever was to fire HESH, hence the low velocity, but with such bad velocity on KE this will be very difficult to use, its like chimera all over again… and somehow thhey manged to pick the one engine that was never considered… lazy gopniks
Wargame really hate the British and there Tanks a ‘relatively slow velocity’ fuc_ing 600mt/sec SLOW as fuck more like! a shell velocity like that its so awfull a T5 Gun has better stats here
WG and there shit British Tanks … and the British helped the Soviets’ more than any other nation in WWII (why fuk bother eh stabs in there backs typical
“wargaming really hate the british” sconq conq caernarvon cgc chieftain yeah they all suck
War Gaming’s balance
British Tier 8 HEAVY TANK: 130mm armour on the hull and 175mm on the turret
SOVIET Tier 8 MEDIUM TANK: 175mm hull armour and 230mm turret armour
PERFECTLY BALANCED, and they say the Chieftain can’t be balanced at Tier 10?
“I don’t understand how shapes and angles work”
well of course, because the K-91 frontal plate isn’t tiny and angled and neither is its turret rounded at all, it is all flat angles on that K-91, an absolute BOX TANK
I would agree if they were of the same class… …but they are not, one is a “heavy” and the other is a “medium”
we can already check the K-91-II on tanks gg, those values are good enough for a Tier 8 HEAVY, the turret is 230mm at its weakest point and most areas are well over 250mm effective thickness, tell me a Tier 8 gun that can pen 250mm with standard ammo?
even the hull is 220mm effective, heavies like the T32 can only dream of 220mm of effective armour from their frontal plates
A very nerfed Chimera and a very buffed T-54-Proto respectively…
So…has nobody else noticed?
“The Charlemagne is equipped with a well-stabilized 120mm gun”
“However, the gun handling is far from perfect, a fact that should be considered when choosing tactics”
I mean…
Dude why did they take the key roles of the k 91 II away. Good penetration , decent alpha and a great sniper . sigh 250 damage is so low no 250 is outdated in todays wot for tier 8 mediums.
It is not outdated, it should have been kept as the standard max damage of any nation’s tier 8 lvl 100mm gun. Just like on tier 8 the 122mm’s should have never been given 440 alpha damage, 440 should have been the max for tier 9.l
It leads to an increase and skewing of the power gap within and between tiers that gets harder to balance out as more content gets introduced.
Combine that with prem ammo, that gets more effective with increased alpha (current alpha meta), you can see a picture of emerge where balancing out WoT now has become harder then back in 2015/2016.
It is not outdated, it should have been kept as the standard max damage of any nation’s tier 8 lvl 100mm gun. Just like on tier 8 the 122mm’s should have never been given 440 alpha damage, 440 should have been the max for tier 9.l
It leads to an increase and skewing of the power gap within and between tiers that gets harder to balance out as more content gets introduced.
Combine that with prem ammo, that gets more effective with increased alpha (current alpha meta), you can see a picture of emerge where balancing out WoT now has become harder then back in 2015/2016.