Stats are not yet final.
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UDES 15/16. Proposed parameters:
Tier: MT-10, Sweden, standard
HP: 1 950
Engine: 480 hp  570 hp
Mass: 30,00 t
Maximum load: 35,00 t
Power-to-weight: 16,00 hp / t  19,00 hp / t
Max speed/Min speed: 45 / -20 km / h  50 / – 24 km / h
Hull turning speed: 50 °/s
Turret turning speed: 41,7 °/s
Terrain resistance values: 0,767 / 0,863 / 1,726
View range: 420 m  390 m
Radio range: 850 m
Hull armor: 40 / 40 / 30Â Â 50 / 50 / 30 mm
Turret armor: 95 / 40 / 20Â Â 100 / 40 / 20 mm
Gun: 12 cm strvkan L/40
Alpha Damage: 460 / 460 / 550Â Â 440 / 440 / 530
Penetration: 254 / 310 / 60 mm
Rate of fire: 5,782Â Â 6,52 rounds/minute
Damage per minute: 2 659,6Â Â 2868,7
Reload time: 10,378 s  9,203 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,336
Aiming time: 2,3 s  2,11 s
Depression/Elevation: -6 ° / +20 ° (-13 ° / +27 °)*
* With active hydropneumatic suspension
Crew – 3 members: Commander, Driver, Gunner.
Gun/Ammo:
Aim spread:
after firing : 3,836;
during turret rotation: 0.077;
while the vehicle is in motion: 0.192 0.096;
during vehicle rotation: 0.096;
during turret rotation at the maximum speed: 3.07;
at the maximum vehicle speed: 8.63 4.79;
at the maximum vehicle rotation speed: 4.79.
Camouflage values:
camouflage of the still tank: 32.0%;
tank camouflage while in motion: 24.0%;
camouflage of the immobile tank while shooting: 5.76%;
camouflage of the tank shooting while in motion: 4.32%.
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EMIL I. Proposed parameters:
Tier: HT-8, Sweden, standard
HP: 1 400
Engine: 430 hp  380 hp (return to the old value)
Mass: 28,80 t
Maximum load: 32,00 t
Power-to-weight: 14,93 hp / t  13,19 hp / t (return to the old value)
Max speed/Min speed: 50 / -16 km / h
Hull turning speed: 28 °/s  26 °/s
Turret turning speed: 20,9 °/s
Terrain resistance values: 1,151 / 1,247 / 2,014
View range: 360 m
Radio range: 850 m
Hull armor: 100 / 20 / 30 mm
Turret armor: 180 / 35 / 20 mm
Gun: 10,5 cm TK 105-9
Alpha Damage: 360 / 360 / 460
Penetration: 217 / 242 / 53 mm
Rate of fire: 5,55 rounds/minute
Damage per minute: 1 997,9
Rounds in clip: 3 rds.
Reload time between clip rounds: 3,0 s
Clip reload time: 26,434 s
Accuracy at 100 m: 0,364
Aiming time: 3,07 s
Depression/Elevation: -12 ° / +15 °
Rounds in magazine: 57 rds.
Guns/Ammo:
Crew – 3 members: Commander, Driver, Gunner
Aim spread:
after firing : 3,836;
during the rotation of the turret: 0.153;
while the vehicle is moving: 0.249;
during vehicle rotation: 0.249;
during turret rotation at the maximum speed: 3.07;
at the maximum vehicle speed: 12.47;
at the maximum vehicle rotation speed: 6.98.
Camouflage values:
immobile tank camouflage: 11.5%;
tank camouflage while in motion: 5.7%;
camouflage of the immobile tank shooting: 2.28%;
camouflage of the tank shooting during motion: 1.13%.
If the Tier 9 Swedish MT keeps its current penetration of 308, I don’t see the point of getting the Tier 10 at all (unless the “upcoming”(tm) MM changes will make Tier 9 a bad place, but then again there’s so many good Tier 9 tanks).
The only reason I see with this, is to trade penetration (from 308 to 254) for higher damage per shot (from 390 to 440).
But let’s be fair… a 10,5 cm gun would make it more like a turreted Strv 103B, I mean, pretty much the same gun (talking about penetration and damage only, not the other stats like accuracy). That 12 cm gun could make a fine originality for that line.
Because the tier 9 is only in early preliminary stage. THey’re focusing on the tier 10 first before moving down to tier 9. The gun’s a placeholder from the Strv 103, just like the 105mm on the tier 8 was originally shown as the same 288mm pen as the 105mm on the UDES 03.
That’s all there is to it, there’s no deeper meaning. WoT news sites really shouldn’t have even shared the stats yet. WG haven’t even released a proper stat card like they did the tier 8 and 10
the tier 9 has only 18mm armor plates, and is taller than the others. just open your eyes
Your first mistake was focusing only on the thickness and not the armor angle.
18 X 3 = 54mm. At Tier IX, plenty of weapons will be able to overmatch this.
Unless the effective armouring is also taken into account (when the turret is not aimed directly at 0 degrees), which is something I always wanted to know.
not a single tier 7 gun is smaller or equal to 54mm 🙂 you can say ALL guns
Comparison against other tier 10 MT: https://i.imgur.com/4lczN9B.png
So more or less a Swedish 121 that trades all the armor for gun depression and better acceleration.
Except that the turret armour should be slopped enough that any and all shots (except HE) will autobounce off it
unless they fire heat, because heat doesn’t give a sh*t about overmatching.
Ah yes the already insignificant mobility buff for the Emil got canceled.
Also nice, again, like the Chimera, the medium tank with a signature feature being alpha got nerfed before release so its alpha is now nothing spectacular at all.
It’s funny how Swedish tanks keep getting screwed up before they’re even released. That’s not as bad as the Kravagn abortion but it’s getting there…
I mean, 440 on a 120mm is already special considering every other 120mm does 400 alpha. The only other guns that do that on tier 10 MT are the Obj 430U and 121, and this has better reload, accuracy, aim time and, better compared to every other tier 10 MT, gun depression…
Don’t know what you see wrong with it. Oh, and it’s very mobile
hmm, the alpha and view range got nerfed. not so excited anymore.
The viewrange nerf is ok, but my god just give this thing it’s damage back
Why? Uts already doing 40 more damage then every other 120mm gun in the game
Giving it 420 sight will only make lights useless.. Like common you can’t do that.
The Patton has had 420m view range for years and it’s never been an issue. The EBRs and their 300m view range have been a bigger problem for the role of light tank so far.
The Patton is also the least stealthy med. Having such a high view range would make the UDES 15/16 able to spot at extreme distances while staying invisible. Thanks, but we already have the Swedish TDs for that.
I really like this line and I do not mind the changes. For once, it should be rather balanced, IMO.
also…still nerfs for Emil 1…-,-
just to be flat worse than coming premium counterpart ?>?? or what is this??
fkin idiots on balance team