WoT – 9.20 Supertest – Japanese Heavies #2

O-I Exp, tier V
– removed the 10 cm Type 14 gun
– increased front armor from 75 to 100 mm
– increased frontal turret armor from 75 to 100 mm
– decreased turret rotation speed from 22,9 to 20,9°/s
– decreased turret rotation dispersion from 3,8 to 3,45

Type 4 Heavy, tier IX
– decreased turret rotation speed from 18,8 to 17,7°/s
– decreased hull rotation speed from 22 to 17°/s
– decreased turret rotation dispersion from 4,14 to 3,91
– decreased hull rotation dispersion from 4,64 to 3,59
– weakened frontal armor

Type 5 Heavy, tier X
– decreased turret rotation speed from 20,9 to 18,8°/s
– decreased hull rotation speed from 22 to 17°/s
– decreased turret rotation dispersion from 4,22 to 3,8
– decreased hull rotation dispersion from 4,22 to 3,26
– weakened frontal armor

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50 thoughts on “WoT – 9.20 Supertest – Japanese Heavies #2

        1. You only have to point that gun generally in the right direction to do ~500 dmg. That’s not what makes this tank viable, it’s what makes this tank broken.

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          1. Actuallythe kv 2 is more devastating tier for tier with the 152mm derp gun making your point of the type 4 and 5 heavies pointless sorry

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  1. “– decreased turret rotation dispersion from 4,14 to 3,91
    – decreased hull rotation dispersion from 4,64 to 3,59”

    “– decreased turret rotation dispersion from 4,22 to 3,8
    – decreased hull rotation dispersion from 4,22 to 3,26”

    Are these the amazing maneuverability buffs that are supposed to make the mobility of the tank better than the Maus?

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      1. They are suppose to make their mobility on par with maus, right now, type 5 traverses significantly faster than maus in both hull and turret traverse. In fact Type 5 even turns faster than E100.

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        1. Correction your wrong maus as a HP ratio of what. 9.90? Type only has 7.77 and it has less traverse? Point Proven that they cant balance anything… Type was fine just make the standard pen of the derp deal 125 pen and punch for 1300 easy fix right there… Just make the prem shell have 75 pen and deal 1500 easy

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  2. I’m still baffled about that they re-add weakspots for these.
    Makes me wonder, why don’t they add weakspots for all of the rest then, too?
    Oh, because that would create balance and would require skill from the players….

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    1. No, because that would make heavy tanks useless. Because while they would nerf them they would not remove or nerf gold ammo, which means while in theory gold isnt necessary anymore if you have skill, you could still just spam it with no brain and manage to kill them easily.
      So not only would HTs be useless against gold, they would also be back to useless against AP.

      Any armor rework is useless as long as gold exists anyway ; they’ll just alternate between buff and nerf every few patch because either tanks are too strong, either they’re too weak. No armor balance is possible with gold.

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      1. I like having weak lower frontplates, because that would require skill to make armor work. It’s only a weakspot if you get caught out of position. Upper frontplates should also only give good protection if you angle it correctly. The Löwe is a perfect example of how armor should work. It is a hard nut to crack, if you play it correctly (hulldown, sidescraping). The IS3 would have been a good example if it didn’t had that magical side armor, which is making the tank more idiotproof than it should be.

        Weak turretfronts and cupola’s are bad for heavytanks, because you can’t hide them. The weakspots on the type 4 and 5 are placed to high if you ask me. But hey, it has weakspots now and this should be just a beginning of a better balanced game.

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  3. “– decreased turret rotation speed from 20,9 to 18,8°/s
    – decreased hull rotation speed from 22 to 17°/s”

    WG has a strange definition of improved mobility.

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  4. Noe they make type 4 heavy even shittier. Like, it is one of the WORST tier 9’s. Every tier 7 tank lol pens the cheeks with gold . like at least increase the cheek armor to 230mm

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  5. Noe they make type 4 heavy even shittier. Like, it is one of the WORST tier 9’s. Every tier 7 tank lol pens the cheeks with gold . like at least increase the cheek armor to 230mm

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  6. Now they make type 4 heavy even shittier. Like, it is one of the WORST tier 9’s. Every tier 7 tank lol pens the cheeks with gold . like at least increase the cheek armor to 230mm

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  7. wg wants everybody use lastest op tanks with prem ammo. thats it. these nerfs will kill hts. fuck wg… now even t8 meds with prem ammo able pen top heavy from front armor. no sense…

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    1. Yeah, Tier 8’s could do that if the Type isn’t angling at all, but only if they sit still for 5 seconds, aim well and pray to RNGsus while taking a hit from that derpgun, they could do 240 damage on an average roll to a Type 4.

      How terrible.

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      1. oh you want t8s able penetrate slowest biggest target from front. what a whore you are. wanna fuck everbody but dont touch my speed my prem ammmo? fucking noob whore.

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        1. Calm down and behave yourself, dont you shame yourself for your behavoiur ?
          And yes if you are in your toptier heavytank and go into fully retarded mode, in my opinion even lights should be able to give you some headache.

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          1. lol shut up retart. you are fucking liar. and i dont got orders from whores. son of bith. how you can hide center of tank? if tank really slow and huge? you are fucking embecile liar. i hope you will be cancer and die pain because ypur type humans ruin good people life.

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            1. If you want to insult somebody, you should first check your grammar,
              if you dont want to be seen as 12 year old ranting kid.
              And please show me the sentence, where i became the “fucking liar”. I am very curious about it .
              My type of humans ruins the life of good people ? You mean of people like you, how are ranting in chat, wishing cancer and pain, calling others and their familiymembers whores ?
              I can tell you what. You are not one of those good people you were talking about.
              And yes for the record, you can hide a big fat slow tank. Simply l2p ;)

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  8. well, that looks promising IMHO. the armor nerfs to Type 4 and 5 are in a range, so that even lowpen-HTs like E100 (with AP, of course) no stand a chance with AP. okay, only if you manage to hit the weakspot. but you get a fair chance without the enemy angling his tank. at least that 250mm “weakspot” is a bit better than the numbers posted on TAP, where the viewport also had 260mm armor.

    the slight nerf in mobility also feels okay, but as others I would love to see a nerf or even better complete removal of the derp guns. spamming prem-HE for rather reliable 500 HPs of damge without aiming is still crap. as is oneshoting BCs once in 100 games if you get the chance to shoot its side and highroll on damage. *evilgrin*

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    1. The goldspam with he is even on lucky strikes 500 hp of dmg. The mobility change makes the tank useless again as it was before. With the last buff it was played since it was fun and it could stand some shots.. Now it will become useless as it is even more slow and armor is more weak. So if you get a random match map as prokorovka or malinivka you are fucked. Even on himmelsdorf you are limited now and outmatched by tanks as t95.

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  9. Well I think you guys are right.. the t95 is a much bigger problem. The tank faces tier 7 tanks at minimal and is basically impenetrable by anyone. Its front armor is even bigger then maus/Type 5

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  10. Type 5 never been OP vs t10 tanks. Yes it derps pretty reliable, but anything at T10 that want to pen it pens it. Just look at the live 3d model and compare to anything that fires prem ammo. Like next months Top tier the obj140. The entire Type5 becomes a green shoot-me-anywhere.

    Unlike the Maus (and more then a few other tanks) there is no way to angle or hide a weak lower plate.

    In t10 mm the Type5 is a support tank. Its derp makes it perfect for exposing a tiny part of your turret around a friendly tank that acts as a meatshield. Thats when those good matches are found.

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  11. *Sees O-I Exp frontal armor buffs*

    …Wait a minute…

    *Furiously checks the WoT Wiki*

    Okay, okay, my KV-220-2 APCR pen is 121, I can still pen them, whew… Thought I was in trouble there for a minute…

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  12. I do have Type 5. Had Type 4 which is crap compared with other tier 9 and with Type 5. Type 5 can stand against prem ammo, more for HEAT less for APCR. Prem HE does over 1k dmg on paper tanks (BC 25t, lights etc.) but also can do less than 100 dmg on some very armored parts of some tanks (gun mantlet etc.). Reload time is about 16.5s for a shot. How this can fight with E-100 and even with Maus? Type 5 is on battle field to fight mices. Anyway is more rare than Maus and E-100.
    When IS-4 will get a well deserved buff (and even IS-7) a lot of pussies will cry about this.

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  13. What’s the purpose of facing someone​ with a strong armor ? Can they just learn to flank since the tanks are easy to out maneuver in battles Heck you can just flank it even in city. Maps i myself find the tanks good on what they are currently a super Heavy TAnk should boost great frontal armour the only weak spots on this vehicles are on the sides which requires flanking techniques but even that you can’t please everyone some find it balances and some find it “OP” or “broken” i say change the premium HE as hesh like high pen low damage per shot while the standard more damage but low pen
    Keep the armour and just be a flanking player like who in the world would face a HT frontally when you can just flank them

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  14. I also have type 5 I dont feel its overpowered…. Side is is not too hard to pen. If you compare armor with T110E3 …. even gold wont go through it and will hit through anything all the time if you know how to play a little. Nobody is crying about that tank being OP. Both should be flanked and not attacked frontally, same as mouse.

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