A reader named Krisztián Bíbor emailed us. He made this proposal:
I spent my last few months researching the Hungarian army from the interwar period to the early Cold War. I was working on creating a tree that is actually feasible and can make its way into the game. This proposal presents the result of my work.
Special thanks to u/Karosi16 for helping me modelling the wheeled vehicles.
A little history
Hungary started developing tanks in 1934 (V-3). The first vehicle that saw service was the V-4, and it was in 1937. In the pre-war period, Hungary joined the Axis Powers. Mass-production of the Csaba armored cars, the Toldi light tanks, and Turán medium tanks started in 1938 based on the modified license of the L-60 and the T-21, in this order. During the war, the Royal Army used the upgraded variants of these vehicles with more powerful armament and thickened armor. They also made several turretless tank destroyers based on the outdated Toldi and Turán tanks. The next new vehicle was designed in 1943, as the engineers had been allowed to study the Panzer V. The new tank was designated as the Tas, but the two prototypes got destroyed by a bomber in the summer of 1944, just before the turrets could be fitted. After the war, Hungary was occupied by the Soviet Union and the government created the Hungarian People’s Army which was armed by Soviet tanks, such as the IS-2, IS-3, T-54, T-55, or later, after the Revolution of 1956, the T-72. Information about post-war or Cold War tanks is lacking, but there is small to no chance that there were any vehicles developed independently by Hungary. The only blueprint I found was this in a Czech forum:
Frequently Asked Questions
Toldi III in Tier IV?
I know, the Toldi III is already in the game as a T3 German Premium Light. It is just so underpowered that nobody wants to play the vehicle. But historically, the Toldi III could easily cope with most of the T4 light tanks. The 40 mm gun with 64 mm penetration is better than ~70% of all Tier IV light tank guns. Although, the rate of fire and gun handling, by all means, should be buffed to the BT-7’s level.
Turán III in Tier VI?
The Tier V German Gift medium is the prototype version of the Turán III. As for its 75 mm long-barrelled gun, it wouldn’t be underpowered, more than 80% of all T6 meds has 76 mm or lower caliber gun. A little characteristics spoiler: https://i.imgur.com/2QMaoYs.png 🙂
Tas in Tier VIII?
In Karika’s tree (historian, he has found the Straussler MBT in the archives of the Bovington Tank Museum), the Tas Prototype is at T6. However, in our proposal, the Turán III is the Tier 6 medium. So the original Tas (Karika’s Tier 7) will be our T7 Prototype. The Tier VIII won’t be the Tas ‘Production’, as it would be weak tier-to-tier. Our T8 is the Korbuly-variant Tas, mentioned in the book ‘Harckocsik és páncélozott járművek típuskönyve’, ISBN 963-326-283-6.
This model of the Tas was basically reconstructed by Pál Korbuly after the war (the son of the Tas’s lead developer János Korbuly), based on oral historical sources. It would use the planned licence-produced 8,8 cm KwK gun from the Panther, as it could have been able to fit into that turret (here are all the historical guns used by Hungary, Name/Caliber/Shell velocity/Rate of fire/Calculated in-game alpha damage/Historical penetration at 100m).
Plus, the completion of the medium branch otherwise would be impossible.
I made a chart comparing all tech tree tanks’ historical authenticity. Note that not all the information is accurate, please correct me if I was wrong. If anyone is interested in an actual comprehensive article about the tanks, I highly recommend Marisa Duchêne’s (French historian) article in English, or Hebime’s writing in Hungarian (or you can use Google Translate). About the vehicles that were not mentioned in these articles, I can share pictures and blueprints that I have or other separate writings. I also have Tankopedia-style td, medium, and wheeled tank historical descriptions with a full-size vehicle preview.
Thank you for reading!