Changes to the Object 430 and Object 430U Canceled

From RU Portal

„Tankers!

The first iteration of the supertest rebalance of medium tanks has come to an end, and we have news for you. We studied the statistics and reviews and came to the conclusion that the previously mentioned edits of all machines did not show the proper result and require further study in the next iteration of the supertest. Therefore, we will continue to test AMX 30B, Leopard 1 and STB-1 changes. We will add detailed characteristics for the next iteration later.

According to the test results the performance characteristics of the “Object 430” and “Object 430U” will remain the same as on the primary server. Edits are canceled.”

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73 thoughts on “Changes to the Object 430 and Object 430U Canceled

    1. “According to the test results the performance characteristics of the “Object 430” and “Object 430U” will remain the same as on the primary server. Edits are canceled.”

      Of course they remain the same you fucking bellends when you aren’t nerfing what is needed. You tried nerfing the gun when the main issue is with the ARMOR.

      What you are saying is that you’ve admitted that these tanks are overperforming so you’ve tried nerfing unrelated things and results showed that that’s not the way to go and instead of looking for other solutions you just leave it as it was before.

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      1. why is it so hard for you to pen 430u? I know it’s only weakpoint is lower plate but there are so many tanks with only weakpoint of lowerplate. like maus, e100, obj 277, jp e100, 113, somewhat wz 111 5a, 60tp etc.

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        1. Do you understand the 430u is a medium tank and all the tanks you mention are heavies and superheavies? Is it your opinion a 430u medium tank should be literally the best heavy tank?

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        2. According to your statement I am sure that you don’t know the weak spots of each heavy tank you mentioned, opj 277 and wz 111 5a weak spot is frontal armor (upper and lower place), Chinese heavy tanks has cupolas weak spots, Maus and e100 frontal turret cheeks are weak spots, jp e100 has cupola as weak spot, THAT 430U HAS CUPOLA BUT THAT DOES NOT COUNT AS WEAK SPOT BECAUSE OF HOW HARD TO HIT THAT DAMN THING NOT TO MENSION THAT IT IS FASTER THEN ALL HEAVIES AND SOME MEDIUMS. also it can side scrape better than Russian heavies LOL (no upper plate weak spot).

          In my opinion they have two ways to fix the 430U, first one is to nerf speed and classify it as a heavy, and the second one is to nerf armor.

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          1. lol man , 430u has no weekspots??? do you have it? almost every match i;m pen in my front turrent (near gun)by jpz e100 , e3 and same others td;s ! i tell you , gold ammo , but i can;t pen of couse e100 , is7 , s.conqueror whitout gold ! so , if you can t pen it , aim lower plate or use gold , but don t nerf a tank if you are unable to aim ! cheers

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      1. NP

        And yes i get what the actuall problem of those tanks is.
        If they give them some weakpoints instead of nerfing the gunhandling then awesome.

        I just have the fear that “Edits are canceled.” will mean that they do not change at all…

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        1. why is it so hard for you to pen 430u? I know it’s only weakpoint is lower plate but there are so many tanks with only weakpoint of lowerplate. like maus, e100, obj 277, jp e100, 113, somewhat wz 111 5a, 60tp etc.

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  1. WG morons why do you even come up with changes that wont work. After 8 years you would think they should learn what shit to put on supertest or not, ahaha.

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    1. why is it so hard for you to pen 430u? I know it’s only weakpoint is lower plate but there are so many tanks with only weakpoint of lowerplate. like maus, e100, obj 277, jp e100, 113, somewhat wz 111 5a, 60tp etc

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      1. Wow, if you really think those are the only weak spots you really need to use some tanks.gg to check your claims… Most of the tanks you mentioned can be penned on the turret easily and if not gold will go straight through. Can’t say the same about the 430

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  2. Yea but its getting the new mechanic. The tank being good depends on wgs implementation of the mechanic. Be patient

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    1. what else to expect from them?
      medium tanks as light tanks, even a premium MBT as a Tier 8 LT (LT/Obj.432, part of the T-64 program with a different turret, a bit like the Obj.757/775 turret)
      they have top tier MTs that were originally designed as heavy tanks, if I am not mistaken I’ve read that the Obj.430 one of the cases

      as part of the tech tree of any other nation in the game they would be quite comparable to the tanks of their true class

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      1. Oh really? How come they nerf tanks that weren’t a problem (FV 4005 or some Swedish heavies) and not Russian biasmobiles (Object 430u, Obj 268V4, Obj 907 etc.)?

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        1. Swedish heavies nerfed? You mean those huge buffs are nerfs now? Ok. 268/4 was nerfed. 907 is alright. I would even say it’s pretty shit. And well, they wanted to nerf 430u, didn’t really work now, did it?

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          1. Bobject nerf was inconsequential, if people stopped playing it because it’s not imba OP anymore, joke’s on them. Also not sure what your standards of “good” are if you claim Object 907 is shit, I’d argue that that thing is to Tier 10 meds what LT 432 is to Tier 8 lights.

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          2. Well, removing one shell and increasing the alpha-damage is not a major buff. The derpy gunhandling is the biggest problem with the Swedish heavies, it’s like trying to hit stuff with a Type 5 at range at times. An E100 will hit more snapshots than a Emil II for an example.

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        2. If the Shitbarn was not a problem I don’t know what is. One shooting tier X is in itself a decent example of overpowered.

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          1. That’s broken, not OP. The port-o-john trades everything for that cannon and the cancer HESH ammo – mobility, camo, gun handling, armor. I suspect that after the nerf goes through, everyone who has the old FV 183 will play that because that at least has armor, and the FV 4005 will vanish or become a unicorn sight.

            By the way, being broken is as much of a problem as being OP. For different reasons, but in the end it’s still toxic game content that needs to either go or receive some serious tweaks to stop being toxic.

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  3. I have a hunch that their “testing” was something entirely, they probably did not want to make public that they were “forced” to revert the changes due to whine from a very specific player community, the kind that majorily does not care if the game is unbalanced for other tech trees

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  4. So basically what happened: RU community took nerf of japanese heavies very badly and then, as if it was not enough, dirty WG scum is trying to do something heretical – nerf balanced ruski tanks. The backlash was quite impressive. Can I blame WG for backing out? I don’t think so.

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  5. Not gonna lie, was almost worried there for a minute that I just ground out another tank for no reason lol…

    That being said, yeah those tanks are BS and need something done to them, the 430U is basically the Type 5 of tier 10 medium tanks being almost idiot proof…

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  6. I guess they realized this branch was rather profitable as far as free xp conversion goes. Can’t wait for the powercreep to reach these…

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  7. ROFLMAO

    This is pathetic. Two of the strongest medium tanks in the game but no, let’s leave them as they are because otherwise the russki and stat padders will cry and whine.

    I guess this dashes any hope of seeing further nerfs to the Object 268 v4 as well.

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      1. Well, this confirms that whatever WG does, if the RU community does not like it they will not go through with it, even if it were of great benefit to the game, and the other clusters (NA, EU, SEA) get no saying on the matter.

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      1. Seriously, those HE shells are such BS. But they are far from being able to win against Germans currently. The Tunguska is probably the most ridicilous vehicle right now – missiles that blow up tanks and guns that blow up your GPU.

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  8. If WG care about balance then why havent they buffed the t-34-2, that tank is a joke compared to other meds. It has bad gun handling, bad dpm and bad pen. I enjoy it from time to time because it is rare, but the performance sucks big time. Why should rare tanks not be touched I have spend as much time and XP to grind these as other people. Unfair WG only wanting to crush fair young players like me who use no gold or OP tanks.

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    1. I just started playing again after a year. I dig the mm changes, the Type 4/5 and arty nerfs gave me hope. Bought premium again. Regret it already, haha.

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