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65 thoughts on “And experience, money and time will not be returned to you!

    1. If nerfing cancerous pieces of shit will drive people away, then fuck them. I think WG is too slow ant too cautious with updates because they’re afraid that people will be pissed. They just need to put their dicks on the table sometimes and you’ll have to take it whether you like it or not. We can learn what catering to anemic majority does to online games by looking at WoW.

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      1. Actually it is… The type 4 and 5 needs a better gun then what it has atm.. The maus is a better choice all around now. 290 pen is bullshit for prem pen and we got tanks like the chieftain and super conq type 5 countered those 2 key spamming cunts. They shoulda kept the standard damage the same and only reduced the prem damage down as it is now.. Maybe 200 he pen..

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        1. Played the Type 5 on CT. 200 damage is what you see more so then not. A few 1K rolls vs the 50mm rear of the E3 etc. But in a pure tier X game it won’t dominate as hard. I don’t mind that change. It’s the AP gun “buff” that’s silly. 3mm more pen is not gonna make more use that vs the HE, even with 200 damage rolls.

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    2. WG is going to drive people away?

      WG has always been driving people away ever since 2016…one only has to look at the server statistics for every region to see servers losing 1/3rd to over half their population in the past few years as more and more people became displeased with how they handled the game.

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    3. Well I don’t know guys. the Type 4 and 5 are mb a little too strong, but yet I feel like the nerf wasn’t that necessary sure they can be annoying sometimes but still. I’m not playing that many TX games since I don’t have a TX tank but when I’m in TIX these tanks give me an opportunity to think and make some strategies on how to approach them. Sure these tanks have an insane amount of front armor. But if you get behind them they can be defeated. At least that’s my opinion for now. It can still change in my battles to come.

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  1. dont be sad…this is just necessary !
    STILL…they are not touching that imbecile amor yet wich is sad…still no proper weakpoints and STILL guns are P2W.

    they said on ST that 2nd ammo on HE gun will be 750 Alpha…and now its 900 with just more pen to be still p2w??
    You know…more pen but less damage…in theory only !

    fking liars

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  2. Complain for years about Super heavy tanks meta.
    Complain for years about HE guns and premium HE.

    Yet when WG finally listens to their player base and nerfs the Japanese heavies you complain as well, causing WG to be more cautious next time we try to raise an issue. The excuse that people spend time and money grinding these tanks is bullshit. WG announced long ago these changes were coming. Even if by some miracle the company did decide to compensate its players, the next time WG rebalances high tier tanks they’ll be compelled to do the same.

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      1. they said “rebalance” not “buff”

        and knowing their stupidity level this can mean a nerf still…
        or buffing something useless and nerfing something “in exchange” with a moronic result…

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        1. Lets at least wait to see what they will do. As any change to the Tiger II and Leo 1 at this point will be a buff. Rebalance could mean anything. As the AT line changes was a rebalance. AT-2 got nerfed “I mean 250+ mm armor at tier 5 was not needed vs 90mm pen guns”, but the other tanks on that line got major buffs even then.

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          1. not really
            first was 203 mm armor not 250 😛 and second…in world of GOLD..203 is.you know what
            and with all this…they simply ignored the most important part here : CUPOLA.
            instead to nerf this and give a PROPER weakpoint they nerfed main armor to allow goldspam to “balance” it.

            so yes…like i said …”knowing wg stupidity level…”

            a great buff to tiger 2 and somehow fixing their moronic mistakes at same time will be to just give it an autoreloader inverse just like IS3A.
            Why not this? If they want PROPER balance between tanks and nations…

            will never happen

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    1. Waffenträger auf Panzer IV – a glasscannon, but a good tank. Driving it in reverse helps the gun depression.

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        1. He means the T22 cp on the picture, T22 sr. – a russian tier 10 medium tank.
          An overpowered ruski in his first stage, nerfed a few times. It was the prize for beeing a tough guy in the devastation-campaign. There´s no chance to get it, maybe…..bonds shop?!..

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          1. I guess it should be added that the overwhelming majority of players who had it got it by rigging matches, which made this an even worse fail. Wargaming could not punish them all nor tell reliably who had rigged and who hadn’t, so they nerfed the thing into oblivion.

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  3. Those nerfs were needed, welcome and honestly expected. People have been complaining about those tanks since they got their problematic feature. If you were planning to grind knowing all of that, well you deserve that waste of time.

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    1. they didn’t nerf the type 4/5’s armor, and they buff the pen on premium ammo … and buff mobility + gun handling. so no, they will be still cancer. but they nerf the shitbarn because it was sooooooo OP.

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  4. I can’t get too excited about the Japanese superheavies as everyone knows that they’re OP and I can’t even get that excited about the FV4005 because we all know that it was over-buffed.

    In regards to TDs what really needs to happen is for the great defoliation to be mitigated.

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  5. I just can’t get the eternal overbuff/overnerf mechanics. QC and supertest and open testing system sucks, apparently.

    Somehow tanks that were total shit will never be balanced after a change, but always overbuffed into complete monsters. Nerfs make good tanks into total shit, not slightly less OP. This happens like every time, yet none is to consider maybe the system is flawed.

    Interesting enough, the SuperPershing incident made WG very careful at prem tanks balance. All buffs are slight, because nerfs will cause butt-burn on client side.

    All they have to do is to make same careful judgement in balance of normal tanks. Maybe if they would have to pay back to disappointed players…

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    1. well bobject nerf was too tame, Maus nerf was pretty good. So WG sometimes do minor buffs, but yeah most of the time its full swing.

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  6. If we could get refunds for that, nothing would get nerfed. And everything would remain broken. And that would have driven me away ages ago if it was like that. As you can’t say the old T-22 was “balanced”. And it’s a special tank, not a premium. So subject to any change.

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  7. was AMX 30B OP and got nerfed ?

    btw the T22 wasnt that crap OP which only through rigging you could get it and had to be nerfed ???

    Type4 and -5 shouldnt be nerfed almost a year ago ? Actually it took them long…

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  8. Seriously – everybody been crying about the imbalanced japanese monstertanks… Stop whining about them being balanced… Seriously. The picture is cool though 🙂

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  9. To be honest, I don’t think that people complain so much about the balancing itself, as rather that WG keeps changing/removing tanks that these players have spent time, effort and maybe even money to obtain. And then when they finally after weeks/months of grinding get to play the tank, WG announces a nerf/removal of that tank. The nerfs are quite often big enough to make the tank a lot less interesting, and thus the players feel cheated. On top of that, there’s no compensation at all. That’s not fun, I know because it has happened to me aswell.
    I’d say, the balancing is a good thing, the lack of compensation is a bad thing 🙂

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  10. since they release imbecile tanks or buff them in purpose..just to milk money from naive players do you really think they care about your efforts and feelings??

    Theres no other explanation for those absolutely imbecile Types buffs or for releasing tanks like 430u and Bobj and even Sconq
    they are fukin OP or broken from start…everyone can see this and WG knows this very well.

    The problem is not on WG anymore…is in players who fall into WG trap and buy those junks.

    If you (x player) have a little brain you should see this and NEVER feed WG greedness and problem is solved.

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    1. But is it the players job to decide what tanks that are OP? Unless we start looking at objective data from graphs, all players will have different opinions on what is OP and what is not OP. It shouldn’t be a requirement to keep track of that as a player, since that’s the job for the developers. As an example, I don’t think that the Super Conqueror is OP (sure, it’s strong, but not OP), so if I like that tank and its playstyle, should I not get it, just because it might get nerfed one day if WG’s data say it needs to?
      And apart from that, this doesn’t only apply to OP tanks. Look what happened to the Obj.263. I had grinded for that tank forever, and when I finally had a few thousand XP left to unlock it, WG moved it down to tier 9 and completely changed it. What’s next? They’ve already mentioned the IS-4. I grinded that line because I wanted the IS-4, not some 2-barreled bullshit.

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      1. its not players “job”, its just their feedback. And since vast MAJORITY say same thing…then probably its true. After that who do you think can say better what is good or bad here? The ones who look only on statistics or those who really use this game, aka play it?
        Surprisingly enough if you look at statistics after all this you can see that somehow coresponds with what players said…:)

        Im not talking about small differences…im talking about BIG ones where you must be stupid to not see them
        like i said, 430u, bobj, Types weakpoints removal + pure p2w gun and so on…

        Now what OP means..?? I thnk means when one side just outclass its couterpart or competitors.
        Sconq may not look OP…but wich are his counterparts?
        E5
        Is sconq somehow FLAT BETTER than E5? Yes it is. That means OP

        On 263 is another story…WG should do same like Foch 155 and FV…allow players to keep their tier X tank
        that was a replacement mistake not a balance fail

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  11. Looking at nerfs mentioned on the picture, I’d say the T22 was absolutely necessary, the AMX not really (though I can see what they tried to do, i.e. set the line apart from the Leopard 1 line), the Grille buff not at all. The Type4/5 buffs were overdue imho, but they should have really turned those pseudo-weakspots into real ones … anything with 260 armour can’t be called weakspots with any justification. Keep in mind that gold ammo, or ‘special ammo’ as WG wants us to call it, will be nerfed, which translates into a serious health buff for the Godzilas.

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  12. WG is not able or willing to balance the vehicles correctly. They might wake up if the cash flow dries out but until that happens they will proceed as they did in the past.

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    1. Agreed. Balance is all about making things right, not totally breaking them. Type 4/5s are a bit over-powered for sure, but nerfing their dmg a little bit is all they need to do. But WG says no, we want to completely destroy these two tanks.

      Same as they did with artys. New Swedish meds are coming out and they are great at hull-downs, what should we do? We nerf half of the vehicles that can suppress them. Brilliant!

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  13. It was certain they will be nerfed the moment WG made them.
    Grille, SU, Type, Mouse, T110…..
    Long list of examples, they like that strategy, make an OP T10, preferably on an unpopular tree and keep it some time to get people to grind it
    If you haven’t gotten the idea by now it it your fault you lost your time
    AMX 30B was unexplainable thought

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  14. I tried nerf FV4005 i didn’t notice nothing much on accuracy, gun handling is okay, speed is okay 32km/h
    they didn’t touch the HESH pen and alpha, so for me is workable better than type 5 with 900 alpha

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  15. THEY JUST USING THE TYPE 5 NERFS TO MAKE US EAT THE FV 4005 NERFS . WHEN I GRIND FOR A TIER TEN FOR A MONTH OR LONGER I WANT IT TO STAY THE WAY IT IS OR HERES A IDEA MAKE IT BALANCED FROM THE START.

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    1. Types and Bobjects are way worse than the Clickers. When I got to these bushfapping Fuckers, I kill them easily, because they’re made out of Cardboard ok something like that. For Type and Rasssssssshia I have to load Prem-Ammo and the Object [Any Number] even bounce that shit

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  16. We tend to forget that WG deals in digital goods, any and all compensation to players costs actually nothing, they can give tanks,gold,silver,bonds,and directives without spending a single real dollar.
    For free, they can make customers happy and wallets open, real money flowing in.

    And they did it, not once or twice, letting people keep tanks being replaced, giving generous gifts, smart moves that made me stick to this game and spend money to support them.

    The problem is, WG has very little respect for it’s customers. It shows in the unnecessary time-consuming counters at every battle, in sudden nerfs and replacement of top tier tanks and the reaction to community feedback – ignored or punished. They keep spitting down the only good well they have and it already comes back to them in declining player numbers.

    Changes to the game are complicated, agreed, but it is not so complicated to create a “special” game mode, similar to randoms in all – but with no arty. Another “special” can have only 5% or 10% RNG, then they can see what people prefer and maybe apply the change to main randoms server, pushing the existing unliked randoms with arty and 25%RNG to special game mode.

    Solutions are there and they are not complicated nor expensive, all they need is a little respect for the players to make it real.

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      1. What is the countdown for? Launching a rocket to space gets a ten second counter and every battle needs 30 sec wasted? Together with load times it allows me to alt+tab into a browser window, read a few short segments and alt+tab back before actual start of battle.

        OK, some noobs need it, like even half an hour timer will help them to go the right way. I don’t like my time eaten up by useless feature, WG can put it in settings, 30, 20, 10 or 0 seconds timer. But no, it is so very complicated, we don’t care.

        My problem is not with the timer itself, but with the attitude of the company towards the clients, WG just don’t care. They can give a choice, but they don’t. They give out free directives, but you have to use them, can’t sell, can’t trash, USE! Or have you depot cluttered by the stuff.

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  17. Where’s the problem?

    They will nerf all toptiers and make it even again………………………………. eventually 😐

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  18. Didn’t WG change the Terms & Conditions a few patches ago to the effect that we dont even own the stuff (such as premium tanks) that we buy, digital or not?

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  19. I want my WT E 100 that I spend gold on to free xp the last 50k so I could play it before they removed it . Isnt it illegal to remove or take something I spent money on ??

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    1. Really dude, stop the whining. You don’t HAVE to open your wallet to get a tier X. If you choose to use money to skip the grind, that doesn’t mean WG owes you anything.

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  20. Off topic but it seems the Falcon crybaby has been silenced at last. Funny how his demise from WG forums sits nice with the humiliation into silence we’ve seen here on TAP

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