WoT Supertest – P.44 Pantera

Tier: MT-8, Italy, standard
HP: 1400
Engine power: 630 HP
Weight: 39.495 t
Max. weight: 43 t
Power-to-weight: 15.95 HP / t
Max. speed forwards/backwards: 55 / -20 km / h
Turn speed: 38 °/s
Turret turn speed: 31.3 °/s
Ground resistance: 1.055 / 1.151 / 2.205
View range: 380 m
Signal range: 750 m

Hull armor: 70 / 35 / 25
Turret armor: 80 / 45 / ?

Gun: 90 mm MT9 Prototype

Damage: 240 / 240 / 320
Penetration: 212 / 259 / 45
RPM: 15.121
Reload speed: 6.904 s
Full reload speed: 11 / 14 / 18 / 20 s
Shell reload speed: 2.5 s
Clip size: 3
Accuracy: 0.355
Aim time: 2.21 s
Gun depression/elevation: -10 / +20

Gun: 90 mm MT8 Prototype

Damage: 240 / 240 / 320
Penetration: 203 / 237 / 45


15 thoughts on “WoT Supertest – P.44 Pantera

  1. Gund: 90 mm MT8 Prototype

    Damage: 240 / 240 / 320
    Penetration: 203 / 237 / 45

    Bruh, this is the 88 mm L/71’s stats not a 90 mm gun.


    1. we still need to wait and see but if both guns are the same length then I can argue they are definitly based on the american 90mm T15E1/2, why? well, that cannon was a L/70 and could pen 204mm with APCBC shell, when firing AP the penetration raised to 217mm, although 203mm for the MT8 is the same as the 88L/71, 212 is the same as the american 90mm T15E2 in WoT


  2. Bad mobility, no armor, meh gun.
    Only upside I see is the 10° gun depression.
    So you either become a ridgewarrior, or perish.


  3. Pantera = Panther lol

    This is literally an Italian Panther II with a 90mm gun instead of the 88mm. And Panther II is either the worst tier 8 medium or a strong contender for the title so the Pantera is going to suck.

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  4. there’s something I don’t understand, they are keeping these place-holder names which makes it seem like they will implement the Italian tanks with questionable history, first of all these guns seem like a clear copy of the american T15 used on the T32 and Super Pershing/T26E4
    if I am not mistaken only 2 T26E4’s were sent to Europe for testing, the remaining 20 or so remained in the US, one of those sent to Europe was the pilot/prototype for the standardized T26E4 that ended receiving the extra armour and nicknamed Super Pershing
    later in it’s life the T15 evolved for a shorter but equally powerfull T54 and was installed in more Pershings (M26E1), the problem with all of that is that at the end of the war the US itself did not have enough M26’s to supply their own army, that is why I don’t think that as soon as 1946 (date of the tier 8 premium that uses the same gun) they would supply M26E1’s with the new T54 gun to Italy
    for that reason it makes no sense that the Italians would use a american gun as the base of their tank projects, but that isn’t the only issue
    I don’t have proof of it but by the Italians were supposedly testing a new prototype 90mm gun with a L/71 length, it supposedly achieved/ was expected to achieve a muzzle velocity of 1000m/s (the T15 could pen 217mm with mv=975m/s), with good quality shells and with that m.v this «cannone da 90/71» would pen more than 217mm
    later on they also supposedly started testing a even longer gun (L/74) that could raise it’s perfrmance a little bit
    this would make things interesting in a way to reduce part of the fantasy with some partially historical information, how?

    the american T15 gun can pen 204mm @ 100m with APCBC shells, this cannon is L/70 in length and similar to the 90/71, that way we could assume that 202mm of pen for the MT8 would be “realistic” (although nerfed) if that gun was the 90/71, then if someone can confirm the existence of both the 90/71 and 90/74 projects you could argue that the 90mm MT9 would be the longer 90/74 with a performance of 212mm of pen @100m

    this also works out with info I have read more than once that the americans tested the Italians 90mm guns and found out they were quite similar to their own 90mm guns
    I believe some know of the photo of some US soldiers inpecting a Semovente, said vehicle is in display in the US
    of course this is from bits of info I remember from many player suggested TT (for both WoT and WT) as well as other blogs I encountered while trying to confirm/learn more about some things, if there’s someone who can clarify on the existence of those prototypes and if they could be used to give a little bit more legitmacy to these things WG will be using, then feel free to do so


  5. Damage: 240 / 240 / 320
    Penetration: 212 / 259 / 45

    notice how every T8 gun from every nation for MT is practically identical for ‘balance’ I’m sure in the real world all Nations 90mm (or so) guns would be different some drastically different, its called an arms race this since the WW2

    of course WG likes everything balanced in the game so nobody has an advantage its so ‘OP’ how terrible how unfair how ungentlemanly not sporting at all ……
    ~ unless its Russian of course then balance is out of the window

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    1. Couldnt have said it better. Still i would wish they would bring the older Tier 8 Mediums on par with the “New” MM and Meta (T69 still cries in a Corner)


    2. there’s just one problem, after WWII almost everyone in the “west” (aka non-members of the soviet block) used the american 90mm gun, the british 105mm L7 and later the 120mm smoothbore, from Germany to Japan all tanks used those guns, with some exceptions like the French and the British with the 120mm rifled gun that passed from the Chiftain to the Challenger prototype
      on the other hand everyone used mostly the same 90mm low pressure guns for armored cars or lightly armoured vehicles (like APC’s), mostly the Cockerill

      in conclusion after WWII most “western” armies were using the same guns and thus there wouldn’t be much difference, the only exceptions are countries that desperatly tried to re-launch their military industry, like the french, but even those seem to have copied the american 120mm to use in their AMX 50 prototypes


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