AMX 50 Historical Turret buff and Others

From EU forum user TyrexMaus, Original article by Sp15/Renhanxue

Few days ago, in the french WoT forum section, I was discussing with other players about the feasability of a second french heavy branch. And then, someone (Teckyota, well-known for his french tree project)came up with a very, very, interesting document. It comes from Sweden, 1951, and it’s a report, some kind of I.D. , about a french tank prototype we all know : AMX 50 100. Here it is.

As you can see, it includes every detail available, including a picture. But what is really, really surprising, is the table on the bottom right. It represents the armor values of each part of the tank. Here’s a translation (thx Google) :

Hmm. Have a close look.
“vaulted” means that this part of the tank is either curved or has no “constant” slope value, being an oscillating turret. So what we have is, basically, a 200mm thick metal plate, to which should be added some 45-50 degrees of angle. Wow. Not bad for a paper tank.
I insist on the fact that this is the ONLY document we have mentioning 50 100’s turret armor. This is the only info available.

Starting from there, we can deduct that AMX 50B and AMX 50 120 might have AT LEAST the same turret armor, being more recent than the 50 100, and having a bigger gun. But that’s just speculation.

Oh, about 50 120. This tank the way it is in WoT is some kind of weird Frankenstein-fake tank.
This is how it looks in the game :


This is what the real AMX 50 120 looked like :


The IG turret is correct. But the hull doesn’t correspond.
The hull was made up with two other french prototypes.
The AMX 65t :


From it comes the hull, with its nose, engine and suspension (with little wheels added on the top). Except for the flanks, who are not sloped IG. The flanks were taken from the AMX70t :


Also while we’re at it, there’s an issue on the HD model of the ARL44: its mantlet is too small, as you can see on this gif :


…that’s all I think !
TyrexMaus & ViKing_6 :)


11 thoughts on “AMX 50 Historical Turret buff and Others

    1. Considering that Ren and Sp15 are the source of the documents and are working with WG on the Swedish tree… It is reasonably possible.


      1. Ren and Sp15 have nowhere nearly posted everything they have…

        As for WG… It takes 6-8 months from planning to implementation. Its not overnight. And thats ONLY if they decide to do something. Frequently they put anything off that they can get away with. Which happens to be alot, from name changes, to minor penn corrections to be historical (although now its all ‘balance’).

        Really, don’t expect WG to lift fingers and move mountains. Mostly because EVERY change costs money to make. Plus, some changes are so small that it is left for HD implementation(Post style muzzle breaks on German tanks and SPGs, they happen to be modeled wrong).

        We’re still waiting on an WTF-100 replacement that was known to be needed within the first month of the WTF-100 coming out. Was promised. Was finally shown… and maybe… maybe… we might see it in 2016.

        WG has a better historical research team, and better access to archives, then anyone else in the business. AW is slightly behind WG in this and WT is so far down the list it doesn’t even make the top 20.


      1. I hope you’re not referring to renhanxue and sp15, because if you’re not going to bother giving credit to the two people who actually found the Swedish document this entire article is based on, you probably shouldn’t be posting the article. You didn’t like it when Rita copy and pasted your stuff without credit, do not do that to others, regardless of whatever terms you’re on with them.


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